On Mon, 31 May 2010, James Bottomley wrote: > On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 22:49 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > On Sat, 29 May 2010, James Bottomley wrote: > > > The job of the kernel is to accommodate hardware as best it can ... > > > sometimes it might not be able to, but most of the time it does a pretty > > > good job. > > > > > > The facts are that C states and S states are different and are entered > > > differently. > > > > That's an x86'ism which is going away. And that's really completely > > irrelevant for the mobile device space. Can we please stop trying to > > fix todays x86 based laptop problems? They are simply not fixable. > > You're the one mentioning x86, not me. I already explained that some > MSM hardware (the G1 for example) has lower power consumption in S3 > (which I'm using as an ACPI shorthand for suspend to ram) than any > suspend from idle C state. Those machines can go from idle into S2RAM just fine w/o touching the /sys/power/state S2RAM mechanism. It's just a deeper "C" state, really. The confusion is that S3 is considered to be a complete different mechanism - which is true for PC style x86 - but not relevant for hardware which is sane from the PM point of view. Now some people think, that suspend blockers are a cure for the existing x86/ACPI/BIOS mess, which cannot go to S3 from idle, but that's simply not feasible. Thanks, tglx _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm
