ext Brian Swetland wrote: > At a certain point, if one side of the argument is using "N900 / OMAP3 > works just fine as is" (which has certainly been the case stated by a > number of folks throughout these discussions), I think it's a little > unrealistic to express shock that somebody argues the opposing point. > The problem lies in the definition of the goal and means to achieve it. We do rely on repositories to discriminate on the quality of applications. As I stated some are accessible and run by our community. So, in this scenario, it works well enough. > I've personally avoided commenting on specific power management issues > or properties of competitive platforms because it can easily be viewed > as rather rude or unprofessional. (though in theory we all could > benefit from any improvements to the kernel regarding power > management, no?). > What I consider plain wrong i to claim that since there are this many units out, some code should be merged. A company needs to cut corners sometimes when making a product but this should not affect upstream code. > I am quite willing to state that on both MSM and OMAP based Android > platforms, we've found that the suspend blocker model allows us to > obtain a lower average power draw than if we don't use it -- Mike Chan > provided some numbers earlier in another thread in the trivial device > idle case, the win is of course much larger in the case of several > poorly behaved apps being active. > That's very good. But if it is done in a conceptually flawed way, some better solution should be considered for upstream merge. [snip] > A reality of a mass market device with a completely open and > unrestricted application development and distribution ecosystem is > that there will be plenty of non-optimal apps available to users > (Sturgeon's Law applies everywhere, after all). Worse yet, many of > these non-optimal apps may be beloved by users for various reasons. I > think there's value in trying to do the best you can power-wise even > in the face of such horrible foes as the dreaded Bouncing Cows App > that Matthew is fond of citing as an example. Sure. I simply disagree on the methods proposed (suspend_blockers) and some of the rationale used for promoting them (volume of otherwise unsupported units). igor _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm