On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > Which is exactly my point. It _doesn't_ work fine without a freezer, > > because the USB stack currently relies on the freezer to prevent plug > > activity. > > Putting on hold plug activity has nothing, NOTHING, to do with the half > assed piece of deadlocking crap we have now we call a freezer. You're wrong; it _does_ have something to do with the freezer. The connection is that the code uses the freezer to put plug activity on hold. You probably meant to say that it _should_ have nothing to do with the freezer. That's a different matter. But in any case you should write what you actually mean, rather than just putting down something as inflammatory as possible. > As long as you guys keep mixing up all the issues and coming up with > totally bogus solutions that cannot work, we won't have a useful suspend > (either to RAM or to disk) in linux. In my defense, you should realize that until Rafael's notifier chain was added (just a few weeks ago, still not in mainline I believe) there was no other way to do it. Plug activity needs to be stopped before the child devices are suspended, and the PM core does not send any notification to drivers at that time. All it does is activate the freezer. Alan Stern _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm
