On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 12:17 -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > On Sat, 7 Jul 2007, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > And guess what ? It's what we do on powerbooks, and it works fine, > > > > without a freezer :-) > > > If you remember, one of the things I've been advocating has always been > > that we should put on hold all plug activity (unplug might be alright as > > long as the user events are just delayed) when we start suspending. No > > new devices, no new bindings. "hub" type devices are respondible for > > bringing in the new stuff after resume. > > Which is exactly my point. It _doesn't_ work fine without a freezer, > because the USB stack currently relies on the freezer to prevent plug > activity. Putting on hold plug activity has nothing, NOTHING, to do with the half assed piece of deadlocking crap we have now we call a freezer. As long as you guys keep mixing up all the issues and coming up with totally bogus solutions that cannot work, we won't have a useful suspend (either to RAM or to disk) in linux. Ben. _______________________________________________ linux-pm mailing list linux-pm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-pm