[linux-pm] PM vs. usermode helpers: request_firmware() must die

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On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 01:02 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > Actually, request_firmware_nowait does not help. Userland would see
> > > non-functional hardware after resume but before
> > > request_firmware_nowait() is done. That would hurt for example with
> > > nfsroot and firmware over nfs, or just general confusion "why is this
> > > f***ing network card broken".
> > 
> > Hrm... suspending with NFS root seems to be quite an acrobatic exercice
> > anyway, but I see your point. Still, a synchronous request_firmware is
> > broken anyway, while the nowait version may work.
> > 
> > > Solution seems to be "do request_firmware before suspend begins, and
> > > cache it in memory".
> > 
> > Which requires knowing when it is safe to rely on userland, which means
> > having ways to be notified before the whole suspend/resume process
> > starts as we already discussed. I'm still wondering if that could be
> > done via separate PM_* messages (PM_PRE_SUSPEND, PM_POST_RESUME) or
> > via a simple notifier... 
> 
> PM_PRE_SUSPEND sounds good. (That would be event = ON, flags =
> PM_PRE_SUSPEND, right? :-) Is there any real use for PM_POST_RESUME?

I don't think those should use existing events... 

Well, you need to know when userland stops beeing useable, _and_ when is
starts beeing available again...

Ben.




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