Re: [PATCH V3 2/3] PCI: rcar: Do not abort on too many inbound dma-ranges

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On Thu, Nov 07, 2019 at 12:37:44AM +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 10/26/19 10:36 PM, Andrew Murray wrote:
> [...]>> But this still leaves me with one open question -- how do I
> figure out
> >> what to program into the PCI controller inbound windows, so that the
> >> controller correctly filters inbound transfers which are targetting
> >> nonexisting memory ?
> > 
> > Your driver should program into the RC->CPU windows, the exact ranges
> > described in the dma-ranges. Whilst also respecting the alignment and
> > max-size rules your controller has (e.g. the existing upstream logic
> > and also the new logic that recalculates the alignment per entry).
> > 
> > As far as I can tell from looking at your U-Boot patch, I think I'd expect
> > a single dma-range to be presented in the DT, that describes
> > 0:0xFFFFFFFF => 0:0xFFFFFFFF. This is because 1) I understand your
> > controller is limited to 32 bits. And 2) there is a linear mapping between
> > PCI and CPU addresses (given that the second and third arguments on
> > pci_set_region are both the same).
> > 
> > As you point out, this range includes lots of things that you don't
> > want the RC to touch - such as non-existent memory. This is OK, when
> > Linux programs addresses into the various EP's for them to DMA to host
> > memory, it uses its own logic to select addresses that are in RAM, the
> > purpose of the dma-range is to describe what the CPU RAM address looks
> > like from the perspective of the RC (for example if the RC was wired
> > with an offset such that made memory writes from the RC made to
> > 0x00000000 end up on the system map at 0x80000000, we need to tell Linux
> > about this offset. Otherwise when a EP device driver programs a DMA
> > address of a RAM buffer at 0x90000000, it'll end up targetting
> > 0x110000000. Thankfully our dma-range will tell Linux to apply an offset
> > such that the actual address written to the EP is 0x10000000.).
> 
> I understand that Linux programs the endpoints correctly. However this
> still doesn't prevent the endpoint from being broken and from sending a
> transaction to that non-existent memory.

Correct.

> The PCI controller can prevent
> that and in an automotive SoC, I would very much like the PCI controller
> to do just that, rather than hope that the endpoint would always work.

OK I understand - At least when working on the assumption that your RC will
block RC->CPU transactions that are not described in any of it's windows.
Thus you want to use the dma-ranges as a means to configure your controller
to do this.

What actually happens if you have a broken endpoint that reads/writes to
non-existent memory on this hardware? Ideally the RC would generate a
CA or UR back to the endpoint - does something else happen? Lockup, dead RC,
performance issues?

Using built-in features of the RC to prevent it from sending transactions
to non-existent addresses is clearly helpful. But of course it doesn't stop
a broken EP from writing to existent addresses, so only provides limited
protection.

Despite the good intentions here, it doesn't seem like dma-ranges is
designed for this purpose and as the hardware has limited ranges it will
only be best-effort.

Thanks,

Andrew Murray

> 
> > In your case the dma-range also serves to describe a limit to the range
> > of addresses we can reach.
> 
> [...]
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Marek Vasut



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