On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 05:15:58PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 08:45:19AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 03:23:24PM +0200, Mika Westerberg wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 02:58:50PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > > > > For example, it looks like PCI_EXP_FLAGS_SLOT is set, but Linux > > > > > > basically ignores it. Maybe if PCI_EXP_FLAGS_SLOT is set but we > > > > > > aren't using pciehp, we should assume any hotplug would be handled via > > > > > > acpiphp? And in that case, we should avoid doing anything that would > > > > > > prevent platform firmware from enumerating things below the bridge? > > > > > > Actually it looks like it would break power management of other > > > components such as xHCI and Thunderbolt controller which are connected > > > to a downstream port that has "Slot implemented" set as well. > > > > To be precise, I think you mean that if we avoided power management on > > ports with "Slot Implemented", ports leading to xHCI and Thunderbolt > > would consume more power but would work correctly, right? And the > > theory is that those ports work even if the OS puts them into D3 > > because the firmware is smart enough to wake them up before poking > > things below them? Doesn't that make the port's power state out of > > sync with what the OS thinks it is? > > I think better example where this fails is normal Thunderbolt device > (not host) which includes PCIe switch and there is an PCIe endpoint, say > network interface connected to one of the downstream ports. That > downstream port has "Slot implemented" set but is not hotplug capable. > > So the device would work correctly but if you take the recent "Runtime > D3, RTD3" system such as Lenovo Carbon X1 6th gen it keeps the whole > PCIe hierarchy from entering D3cold. I would rather not to break that ;-) Yeah but as you say, those are Downstream Ports. What if you constrain it to Root Ports? Thanks, Lukas