> That would be very nice but many devices do not support the internal > route. But Logan in the NVMe case we are discussing movement within a single function (i.e. from a NVMe namespace to a NVMe CMB on the same function). Bjorn is discussing movement between two functions (PFs or VFs) in the same PCIe EP. In the case of multi-function endpoints I think the standard requires those devices to support internal DMAs for transfers between those functions (but does not require it within a function). So I think the summary is: 1. There is no requirement for a single function to support internal DMAs but in the case of NVMe we do have a protocol specific way for a NVMe function to indicate it supports via the CMB BAR. Other protocols may also have such methods but I am not aware of them at this time. 2. For multi-function end-points I think it is a requirement that DMAs *between* functions are supported via an internal path but this can be over-ridden by ACS when supported in the EP. 3. For multi-function end-points there is no requirement to support internal DMA within each individual function (i.e. a la point 1 but extended to each function in a MF device). Based on my review of the specification I concur with Bjorn that p2pdma between functions in a MF end-point should be assured to be supported via the standard. However if the p2pdma involves only a single function in a MF device then we can only support NVMe CMBs for now. Let's review and see what the options are for supporting this in the next respin. Stephen