On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Jiang Liu <liuj97@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 09/14/2012 01:40 AM, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Jiang Liu <liuj97@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> This patch introduces two root bridge hotplug safe interfaces to walk >>>> all root buses. Function pci_get_root_buses() takes a snopshot of the >>>> pci_root_buses list and holds a reference count to each root buses. >>>> pci_{get|put}_root_buses are used to replace hotplug unsafe interface >>>> pci_find_next_bus(). >>> >>> Honestly, I think the whole idea of walking these lists is wrong, and >>> adding safer interfaces just perpetuates the idea that it's OK to walk >>> them. >>> >>> We should be doing the setup in the device add path instead. I know >>> we have other issues with that in some cases, but I'd like to at least >>> move in that direction. >>> >>> For example, sba_init() is a problem because it's an ACPI driver, and >>> we currently enumerate PCI devices before binding most ACPI drivers. >>> That's broken -- in that particular case, there's an HWP0001 IOMMU >>> device that encloses the PNP0A03 PCI host bridge. Currently we bind >>> the PNP0A03 driver first, enumerate the PCI devices below it, then >>> bind the HWP0001 driver (sba_init). Obviously that's backwards and >>> the HWP0001 driver should have been bound first, then the PNP0A03 >>> driver. But I don't think we're ready to make that shift yet (though >>> it'd be nice if somebody were working on it). >> I remember there were some discussions on the mail list above the divergence >> between boot and hotplug paths. But it's a little hard for me to work on >> this, I only have experience with PCI on IA64 and x86:( >> >>> >>> I wonder if we could add some kind of iterator that does the list >>> traversals in the PCI core and calls a callback for every device? I >>> think that would work for sba_init(), but I don't know about the >>> others. This would still be ugly in that the iterator would have to >>> hold some sort of hotplug lock while doing for_each_pci_dev() and the >>> callers, e.g., sba_init(), are not solving the problem for hot-added >>> devices, but at least the locking would be in the core and the drivers >>> would stop depending on the lists themselves. > >> I will try the iterator first, hope we could find a solution here. > > A plain iterator only handles devices that already exist. But I > wonder if it would work to have an interface like "call this callback > for every device that exists already *and* for every device that's > hot-added in the future." The bus notifiers are close to this, e.g., > "bus_register_notifier(&pci_bus_type, ...)" handles this for hot-added > devices. A little glue around it could take care of doing it for > already-existing devices as well. BTW, while reviewing Yinghai's vga patch, I found a case in vga_arb_device_init() that does exactly this: registers a notifier to catch future hot-added devices, then calls the notifier "add" function for every existing device. So that's another place that could use something like this. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-pci" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html