On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 09:37:58AM -0600, Limonciello, Mario wrote: > On 11/14/2022 09:33, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:42 PM Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 12:58:28PM -0600, Limonciello, Mario wrote: > > > > On 11/11/2022 11:41, Bjorn Helgaas wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 05:33:55PM -0500, Mario Limonciello wrote: > > > > > > Firmware typically advertises that ACPI devices that represent PCIe > > > > > > devices can support D3 by a combination of the value returned by > > > > > > _S0W as well as the HotPlugSupportInD3 _DSD [1]. > > > > > > > > > > > > `acpi_pci_bridge_d3` looks for this combination but also contains > > > > > > an assumption that if an ACPI device contains power resources the PCIe > > > > > > device it's associated with can support D3. This was introduced > > > > > > from commit c6e331312ebf ("PCI/ACPI: Whitelist hotplug ports for > > > > > > D3 if power managed by ACPI"). > > > > > > > > > > > > Some firmware configurations for "AMD Pink Sardine" do not support > > > > > > wake from D3 in _S0W for the ACPI device representing the PCIe root > > > > > > port used for tunneling. The PCIe device will still be opted into > > > > > > runtime PM in the kernel [2] because of the logic within > > > > > > `acpi_pci_bridge_d3`. This currently happens because the ACPI > > > > > > device contains power resources. > > > > > > Wait. Is this as simple as just recognizing that: > > > > > > _PS0 means the OS has a knob to put the device in D0, but it doesn't > > > mean the device can wake itself from a low-power state. The OS has > > > to use _S0W to learn the device's ability to wake itself. > > > > It is. > > > > > If that's enough, maybe we don't need to complicate this with all the > > > Thunderbolt and device link stuff. Which would be great, because the > > > code change itself has nothing to do with those things. > > > > Indeed. > > I'd think it's still useful to leave "something" in the commit message about > how we got to that conclusion though. > > Bjorn, do you want me to to attempt to rewrite the commit message and send a > v6, or would you like to? Let me give it a try and post it for your reaction. Bjorn