On Tuesday 22 June 2021 19:27:37 Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote: > Hi Luca, Pali, > > On 22/06/21 7:01 pm, Luca Ceresoli wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 22/06/21 14:16, Pali Rohár wrote: > >> On Tuesday 22 June 2021 12:56:04 Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote: > >>> [Adding Linus for GPIO discussion, thread: > >>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20210531090540.2663171-1-luca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 01:06:27PM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote: > >>>> Hello! > >>>> > >>>> On Tuesday 22 June 2021 12:57:22 Luca Ceresoli wrote: > >>>>> Nothing happened after a few weeks... I understand that knowing the > >>>>> correct reset timings is relevant, but unfortunately I cannot help much > >>>>> in finding out the correct values. > >>>>> > >>>>> However I'm wondering what should happen to this patch. It *does* fix a > >>>>> real bug, but potentially with an incorrect or non-optimal usleep range. > >>>>> Do we really want to ignore a bugfix because we are not sure about how > >>>>> long this delay should be? > >>>> > >>>> As there is no better solution right now, I'm fine with your patch. But > >>>> patch needs to be approved by Lorenzo, so please wait for his final > >>>> answer. > >>> > >>> I am not a GPIO expert and I have a feeling this is platform specific > >>> beyond what the PCI specification can actually define architecturally. > >> > >> In my opinion timeout is not platform specific as I wrote in email: > >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20210310110535.zh4pnn4vpmvzwl5q@pali/ > >> > >> My experiments already proved that some PCIe cards needs to be in reset > >> state for some minimal time otherwise they cannot be enumerated. And it > >> does not matter to which platform you connect those (endpoint) cards. > >> > >> I do not think that timeout itself is platform specific. GPIO controls > >> PERST# pin and therefore specified sleep value directly drives how long > >> is card on the other end of PCIe slot in Warm Reset state. PCIe CEM spec > >> directly says that PERST# signal controls PCIe Warm Reset. > >> > >> What is here platform specific thing is that PERST# signal is controlled > >> by GPIO. But value of signal (high / low) and how long is in signal in > >> which state for me sounds like not an platform specific thing, but as > >> PCIe / CEM related. > > > > That's exactly my understanding of this matter. At least for the dra7xx > > controller it works exactly like this, PERSTn# is nothing but a GPIO > > output from the SoC that drives the PERSTn# input of the external chip > > without affecting the controller directly. > > > > While the patch itself is correct, this kind-of changes the behavior on > already upstreamed platforms. Previously the driver expected #PERST to > be asserted be external means (or default power-up state) and only takes > care of de-asserting the #PERST line. > > There are 2 platforms that will be impacted due to this change > 1) arch/arm/boot/dts/am57xx-beagle-x15-common.dtsi (has an inverter on > GPIO line) > 2) arch/arm/boot/dts/am571x-idk.dts (directly connected to #PERST) > > For 1), gpiod_set_value(reset, 0) will assert the PERST line due to the > inverter (and GPIO_ACTIVE_LOW) > For 2), gpiod_set_value(reset, 0) will assert the PERST line because we > have GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH Ou! This is a problem in DT. It needs to be defined in a way that state is same for every DTS device which uses this driver. > So this patch should have to be accompanied with DT changes (and this > patch also breaks old DT compatibility). This of course needs to be fixed somehow prior accepting this patch. It is blocker as in current state it breaks some platforms. > > Thanks > Kishon