Hello Kishon! On Monday 31 May 2021 21:30:30 Kishon Vijay Abraham I wrote: > I had given the timing mentioned in the specification here > https://lore.kernel.org/r/023c9b59-70bb-ed8d-a4c0-76eae726b574@xxxxxx > > The PCI EXPRESS CARD ELECTROMECHANICAL SPECIFICATION defines the Power > Sequencing and Reset Signal Timings in Table 2-4. Please also refer Figure > 2-10: Power Up of the CEM. > > ╔═════════════╤══════════════════════════════════════╤═════╤═════╤═══════╗ > ║ Symbol │ Parameter │ Min │ Max │ Units ║ > ╠═════════════╪══════════════════════════════════════╪═════╪═════╪═══════╣ > ║ T PVPERL │ Power stable to PERST# inactive │ 100 │ │ ms ║ > ╟─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────┼─────┼─────┼───────╢ > ║ T PERST-CLK │ REFCLK stable before PERST# inactive │ 100 │ │ μs ║ > ╟─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────┼─────┼─────┼───────╢ > ║ T PERST │ PERST# active time │ 100 │ │ μs ║ > ╟─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────┼─────┼─────┼───────╢ > ║ T FAIL │ Power level invalid to PERST# active │ │ 500 │ ns ║ > ╟─────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────┼─────┼─────┼───────╢ > ║ T WKRF │ WAKE# rise – fall time │ │ 100 │ ns ║ > ╚═════════════╧══════════════════════════════════════╧═════╧═════╧═══════╝ > > The de-assertion of #PERST is w.r.t both power stable and refclk stable. I think this does not fully answer this problematic question. One thing is initial power on and second thing is warm reset (when both power and clock is stable). On more ARM boards, power is not SW controllable and is automatically enabled when powering board on. So Tₚᵥₚₑᵣₗ is calculated since bootloader and therefore not needed to take into account in kernel. Tₚₑᵣₛₜ₋cₗₖ is only 100 µs and experiments proved that 100 µs not enough for toggling PERST# GPIO. At least one 1 ms is needed and for some cards at least 10 ms. Otherwise cards are not detected. So when you have both power and clock stable and you want to reset card via PERST# signal, above table does not say how long it is needed to have PERST# in reset state. > I'm yet to validate this patch, but IIRC devm_gpiod_get_optional(dev, > NULL, GPIOD_OUT_HIGH) will already de-assert the PERST line. Please note > the board here can have various combinations of NOT gate before the gpio > line is actually connected to the connector. > > Thanks > Kishon