Re: ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN on PA-RISC

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2024, John David Anglin wrote:

> On 2024-07-24 3:25 p.m., James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-07-24 at 20:17 +0200, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Thanks for fixing the cache aliasing issues on PA-RISC in the commit
> >> 72d95924ee35c8cd16ef52f912483ee938a34d49.
> >>
> >> I think there is still one problem left - and that is
> >> ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN. Currently, it is 16, which is obviously wrong.
> > I don't think that's obvious, why is it wrong?
> I see this comment in arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h:
> 
> /*
>  * Memory returned by kmalloc() may be used for DMA, so we must make
>  * sure that all such allocations are cache aligned. Otherwise,
>  * unrelated code may cause parts of the buffer to be read into the
>  * cache before the transfer is done, causing old data to be seen by
>  * the CPU.
>  */
> #define ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN       (128)
> #define ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN   (8)
> 
> L1_CACHE_BYTES is 64 on arm64.
> 
> Possibly, the same can occur on parisc.
> 
> Dave

L1_CACHE_BYTES is a performance hint that is used to avoid cache line 
ping-pong when multiple CPUs modify nearby data.

ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN is the biggest possible cache line size to avoid DMA 
data corruption. As there are some arm64 machines with 128-byte cache 
line, arm64 has to define it to 128.

James said that the L2 cache on PA8800/8900 is coherent with PCI. So, I 
think that ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN should be 64 (is that the L1 cache line size 
on PA8800/8900?).

L1_CACHE_BYTES could be 128 to avoid ping-pong between sockets.

For ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN, there is an arm64 commit 
9382bc44b5f58ccee375f08f518e53c0280051dc, it is an optimization, so that 
they can use cache line size probed at startup instead of 128. I think we 
don't have to do this optimization on PA-RISC, the PA-RISC machines with 
16-byte or 32-byte cache line size are old and slow - so that there is no 
point in trying to optimize kmalloc pools for them.

Mikulas

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