On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Alessandro Zummo wrote: > On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:28:01 +0100 (CET) > Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > So I can solve my problem (autoloading the RTC driver on PS3 by udev) by > > converting the old genrtc driver into a platform device driver and creating > > platform devices where appropriate. > > yes. btw, if you are building a kernel specific for the PS3, I would > compile the rtc driver statically, otherwise it won't be available > early on boot. > > > However, this doesn't solve the distro's problem: as the old RTC framework > > depends on RTC_LIB=n, you cannot have both old and new RTC drivers in your > > (single) distro kernel. That's why dmwm2 created drivers/rtc/rtc-ppc.c: Fedora > > had to support machines with both old and new RTC drivers. As all of the old > > drivers are actually behind the ppc_md.[sg]et_rtc_time() abstraction, this was > > very easy. > > ok, generic kernel. you will have to load the modules on initrd. no, sadly you > can't have both of them. you might stick with the old interface or > convert them all. > > > Hence it's all or nothing, and we have to convert all of them. > > > > drivers/rtc/rtc-generic.c would allow to have a working system without old > > RTC drivers, until all low-level code has been converted to individual RTC > > drivers. > > I know but I have enough experience to foresee that once a generic over generic > framework is in place it's very hard to get rid of it because people > will have no incentives. I know. > If you really need rtc-generic you can keep using it even if it's > not in the kernel, distributions often have their specific > set of kernel patches. rtc-generic is already in the kernel, it's just called rtc-parisc ;-) > But I'd strongly suggest to plan and execute a conversion process. So would you accept a patch series that: 1. Adds the missing module aliases to rtc-parisc (which is a bugfix), 2. Moves the platform device creation out of rtc-ppc and into arch-specific code (which is also a bugfix), 3. Consolidates rtc-parisc and rtc-ppc into rtc-generic (which is a cleanup), 4. Makes rtc-generic dependent on PARISC, PPC, and M68K (the existing [sg]et_rtc_time() users): a. without introducing ARCH_HAS_GENERIC_RTC, b. with a big fat warning in the Kconfig comment not relaxing the dependencies, as it's supposed to go away. 4. Converts the PS3 RTC support into a separate driver, called rtc-ps3 (as a bonus ;-) ? If yes, I'll cook it up. Other RTC platform support can be converted into separate drivers later. Thanks! With kind regards, Geert Uytterhoeven Software Architect Sony Techsoft Centre Europe The Corporate Village · Da Vincilaan 7-D1 · B-1935 Zaventem · Belgium Phone: +32 (0)2 700 8453 Fax: +32 (0)2 700 8622 E-mail: Geert.Uytterhoeven@xxxxxxxxxxx Internet: http://www.sony-europe.com/ A division of Sony Europe (Belgium) N.V. VAT BE 0413.825.160 · RPR Brussels Fortis · BIC GEBABEBB · IBAN BE41293037680010 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-parisc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html