On Mon, 2 Mar 2009, Alessandro Zummo wrote: > On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:54:14 +0100 (CET) > Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Indeed. You can have a working RTC class driver for lots of hardware by just > > writing ca. 100 lines of code on top of the generic framework. > > That's true, but we would then have two generic frameworks. And one > of them will have its code scattered all around the kernel. > > So you either use the old rtc framework, which is perfectly functional, > or you move to the new rtc lass and write the drivers. So I can solve my problem (autoloading the RTC driver on PS3 by udev) by converting the old genrtc driver into a platform device driver and creating platform devices where appropriate. However, this doesn't solve the distro's problem: as the old RTC framework depends on RTC_LIB=n, you cannot have both old and new RTC drivers in your (single) distro kernel. That's why dmwm2 created drivers/rtc/rtc-ppc.c: Fedora had to support machines with both old and new RTC drivers. As all of the old drivers are actually behind the ppc_md.[sg]et_rtc_time() abstraction, this was very easy. Hence it's all or nothing, and we have to convert all of them. drivers/rtc/rtc-generic.c would allow to have a working system without old RTC drivers, until all low-level code has been converted to individual RTC drivers. > Layering a generic framework over another generic framework > is quite a nonsense . IMHO these two generic frameworks are quite different: [sg]et_rtc_time() abstracts the low-level RTC hardware interface, while RTC class handles the interaction with userspace. With kind regards, Geert Uytterhoeven Software Architect Sony Techsoft Centre Europe The Corporate Village · Da Vincilaan 7-D1 · B-1935 Zaventem · Belgium Phone: +32 (0)2 700 8453 Fax: +32 (0)2 700 8622 E-mail: Geert.Uytterhoeven@xxxxxxxxxxx Internet: http://www.sony-europe.com/ A division of Sony Europe (Belgium) N.V. VAT BE 0413.825.160 · RPR Brussels Fortis · BIC GEBABEBB · IBAN BE41293037680010 -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-parisc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html