Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Kevin Hilman > <khilman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > >> >> > piece of hardware, this would be the right thing to do, >> > and I think the in-kernel examples are all "simple", >> > e.g. arch/arm/mach-omap2/powerdomain* is all about >> > power domains and nothing else, >> >> FYI... that code isn't the same as PM domain. > > > This sort of points to a core problem here. Our terminologies are > ambiguous that we cannot understand each others code. As long > as <linux/pm_domain.h> begins: > > /* > * pm_domain.h - Definitions and headers related to device power domains. > * > > But arguably that should just be patched (I think there are a few > remnants in the code still implying that these things are only about > power). Agreed. The terminology is confusing, and any situations like this in the code/comments/docs should be patched. When PM domains were introduced, I was the first to complain that we shouldn't use the term power domain so as not to be confused with HW concepts, so we settled on the term 'PM domain.' Ultimately, it's just a configurable grouping of devices whose callbacks happen during PM transitions. >> >> That code is for the >> *hardware* powerdomains, not the software concept of "PM domain." In >> OMAP, PM domain is implmented at the omap_device level. And omap_device >> is the abstraction of an IP block that knows about all the PM related >> register settings, clocks, HW powerdomain, voltage domain, PM related >> pin-muxing etc. etc. All of these things are abstracted in an >> omap_device, so that the PM domain implementation for OMAP looks rather >> simple (c.f. omap_device_pm_domain in arch/arm/plat-omap/omap_device.c.) > > > OK following now... > >> >> > I think the lesser of two evils is the distributed approach, >> >> The pinctrl examples I've seen mentioned so far are all PM related >> >> (sleep, idle, wakeup, etc.) so to me I think they still belong in >> PM domains (and that's how we handle the PM related pins in OMAP.) > > > Well, the pinctrl grabbers in these drivers are using these states also > for platforms that do not even select CONFIG_PM. For example > mach-nomadik is quite happy that the PL011 driver is thusly > muxing in its pins. And would require refactoring to use PM > domains. If CONFIG_PM is disabled, then is it safe to assume that the pins in question are probably only done once at init time. I assume during ->probe(). ? > > So basically this requirement comes down to: > > - When dealing with a SoC IP block driver > > - That need to multiplex pins > > - Then your SoC must select CONFIG_PM and > CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME andb > CONFIG_PM_GENERIC_DOMAINS and implement > proper domain handling hooks. > > Is this correct? I would say yes. Currently, PM domains are the way to hook SoC-specific integration details into PM transitions. However, if what we want/need are only ways to introduce SoC-specific integration details into non-PM transitions (e.g. probe/remove), maybe bus notifiers would suffice here. e.g. you'd get a bus notifier when the device is added/attached and any init-time pinctrl setup could be done then. This still keeps drivers clean of SoC-specific integration data/code, and also allows that to happen whether or not PM features are enabled. Kevin -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
