On Fri, Feb 03, 2012 at 11:07:20PM +1100, NeilBrown wrote: > However what it really shows me is that I was misunderstanding the code > (If I spent the time to verify every conclusion that I jumped to, I'd never > get anywhere :-( ). Better clarify that now. > > So this function - serial_omap_tx_empty() is called to test if the > tx queue is empty. Not just the queue. The documentation for that function is accurate: tx_empty(port) This function tests whether the transmitter fifo and shifter for the port described by 'port' is empty. If it is empty, this function should return TIOCSER_TEMT, otherwise return 0. If the port does not support this operation, then it should return TIOCSER_TEMT. So, if this is returning TIOCSER_TEMT while there's still a transmission in progress, then it's buggy. > So when I > > cat somefile > > to the serial console, most of the file comes out fine. But after 'cat' > finishes and returns to the shell - while some chars are still in the FIFO - > the shell does an 'stty' ioctl to make sure the settings are still OK. > This ioctl calls serial_omap_tx_empty which calls pm_resume_put() which > immediately suspends the uart, which seems to stop some clock - even though > we think it shouldn't. If there's an on-going transmission, why is the runtime PM count zero, meaning that the UART can sleep at the point where serial_omap_tx_empty() is being called - and obviously there's still characters in the FIFO? I guess this is highlighting a problem with doing runtime PM with serial ports: you don't know when the port has _actually_ finished sending its final character, which is even more of a problem if the port does hardware CTS flow control itself. It seems that runtime PM should be checking whether the TX FIFO is empty before shutting the port down - and that probably means a hook into the idle stuff. Note though, that serial_omap_tx_empty() can be called via ioctl from userspace, so this function would still need the runtime callbacks in it so that the register is readable at _any_ time that the port is open. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html