If people don't mind, here is a greatly simplified summary of the comments and objections I have seen so far on this thread: The in-kernel suspend blocker implementation is okay, even beneficial. Opportunistic suspends are okay. The proposed userspace API is too Android-specific. More kernel mechanisms are needed for expressing processes' latency requirements. The last one is obviously a longer-term issue, so let's ignore it for now. That leaves as the only point of contention the userspace suspend-blocker API. The proposal I made a couple of days ago removes this API and leaves the other things (i.e., the in-kernel suspend blockers and opportunistic suspend) intact. In place of the userspace kernel-blocker API, Android would have to implement a power manager process that would essentially juggle all the latency requirements in userspace. Communication between the power manager process and the kernel would be limited to adding a new "opportunistic" entry to /sys/power/state -- something which could well be useful in its own right. Even if this API turns out not to be good, it's simple enough that it could be removed pretty easily. This answers Alan Cox's (and other's) desire not to implement a questionable or special-purpose API. And it also answers Thomas's desire to make scheduling decisions based on latency requirements (although the answer is simply to punt all these decisions out of the kernel and into userspace -- which is reasonable for now since the alternative would require a long-term kernel development effort). Indeed, having a power manager thread may well turn out to be a useful thing -- but even if it doesn't, this scheme minimizes the damage while still allowing the Android platform to use a vanilla kernel with only limited modifications to their userspace. Alan Stern -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-omap" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
