----- Ursprüngliche Mail ----- > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:05:48PM +0100, Richard Weinberger wrote: >> nfs_encode_fh() in fs/nfs/export.c checks for IS_AUTOMOUNT(inode), if this is >> the case >> it refuses to create a new file handle. >> So while accessing /files/disk2 directly on the re-exporting server triggers an >> automount, >> accessing via nfsd the export function of the client side gives up. >> >> AFAIU the suggested proxy-only-mode[1] will not address this problem, right? > > That's how I was thinking of addressing the problem, actually. I > haven't figured out how to make that proxy-only mode work, though. > >> One workaround is manually adding an export for each volume on the re-exporting >> server. >> This kinda works but is tedious and error prone. >> >> I have a crazy idea how to automate this: >> Since nfs_encode_fh() in the NFS client side of the re-exporting server can >> detect >> crossing mounts, we could install a new export on the sever side as soon the >> IS_AUTOMOUNT(inode) case arises. We could even use the same fsid. >> What do you think? > > Something like that might work. > > I'm not sure what you mean by the same fsid. I think you'd need to make > up a new fsid each time you encounter a new filesystem. And you'd also > want to persist it on disk if you want this to keep working across > reboots of the proxy. By same fsid I meant reusing the fsid from the backend server. > I think you could patch rpc.mountd to do that. Okay, I need to dig into this. >> Another obstacle is file handle wrapping. >> When re-exporting, the NFS client side adds inode and file information to each >> file handle, >> the server side also adds information. In my test setup this enlarges a 16 bytes >> file handle >> to 40 bytes. >> The proxy-only-mode won't help us either here. > > Part of my motivation for a proxy-only mode was to remove that wrapping. > > Since you're dedicating the host to reexporting one single backend > server, in theory you don't need any of the information in the wrapper. > When you (the proxy) get a filehandle from a client, you know which > server that filehandle originally came from, so you can go ask that > server for whatever you need to know about the filehandle (like an > fsid). I see. That way we could get rid of file handle wrapping but loose the NFS clinet inode cache on the re-exporting server, I think. >> Did you consider using the opaque file handle from the server as >> lookup key in a (persisted) data structure? > > A little, but I don't think it works. > > If you do this, you do need to require that you only export one server. > Otherwise there may be collisions (two different servers could return > filehandles that happen to have the same value). > > The database would store every filehandle the client has ever seen. > That could be a lot. It may also include filehandles for since-deleted > files. The only way to prune such entries would be to try using them > and see if the server gives you STALE errors. True. I didn't think about the pruning case. Thanks a lot for the prompt reply and your valuable input. //richard