On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 1:02 PM Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:39:19AM -0700, Stan Hu wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 11:19 AM J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > We know node B has that cat loop that will keep reopening the file. > > > > > > The only way node B could avoid translating those open syscalls into > > > on-the-wire OPENs is if the client holds a delegation. > > > > > > But it can't hold a delegation on the file that was newly renamed to > > > test.txt--delegations are revoked on rename, and it would need to do > > > another OPEN after the rename to get a new delegation. Similarly the > > > file that gets renamed over should have its delegation revoked--and we > > > can see that the client does return that delegation. The OPEN here is > > > actually part of that delegation return process--the CLAIM_DELEGATE_CUR > > > value on "claim type" is telling the server that this is an open that > > > the client had cached locally under the delegation it is about to > > > return. > > > > > > Looks like a client bug to me, possibly some sort of race handling the > > > delegation return and the new open. > > > > > > It might help if it were possible to confirm that this is still > > > reproduceable on the latest upstream kernel. > > > > Thanks for that information. I did more testing, and it looks like > > this stale file problem only appears to happen when the NFS client > > protocol is 4.0 (via the vers=4.0 mount option). 4.1 doesn't appear to > > have the problem. > > > > I've also confirmed this problem happens on the mainline kernel > > version (4.19.0-rc4). Do you have any idea why 4.1 would be working > > but 4.0 has this bug? > > No. I mean, the 4.1/4.0 differences are complicated, so it's not too > surprising a bug could hit one and not the other, but I don't have an > explanation for this one off the top of my head. > > > https://s3.amazonaws.com/gitlab-support/nfs/nfs-4.0-kernel-4.19-0-rc4-rename.pcap > > is the latest capture that also includes the NFS callbacks. Here's > > what I see after the first RENAME from Node A: > > > > Node B: DELEGRETURN StateId: 0xa93 > > NFS server: DELEGRETURN > > Node A: RENAME From: test2.txt To: test.txt > > NFS server: RENAME > > Node B: GETATTR > > NFS Server: GETATTR (with old inode) > > Node B: READ StateId: 0xa93 > > NFS Server: READ > > Presumably the GETATTR and READ use a filehandle for the old file (the > one that was renamed over)? > > That's what's weird, and indicates a possible client bug. It should be > doing a new OPEN("test.txt"). > > Also, READ shouldn't be using the stateid that was returned in > DELEGRETURN. And the server should reject any attempt to use that > stateid. I wonder if you misread the stateids--may be worth taking a > closer look to see if they're really bit-for-bit identical. (They're > 128 bits, so that 0xa93 is either a hash or just some subset of the > stateid.) > > (Apologies, I haven't gotten a chance to look at it myself.) Thanks again for the information. It looks like Wireshark is showing the CRC-16 hash of both the sequence ID and the other state ID, which makes things a little confusing. Here's the abbreviated flow with the 12-byte StateId (excludes the sequence number) and hashed values: Node B: OPEN test.txt NFS server: OPEN StateId: 96:49:9c:5b:e0:41:30:32:27:00:00:00 (0x7cd5) --- 5 seconds later, presumably when I start the while loop --- Node B: READ StateId: 96:49:9c:5b:e0:41:30:32:28:00:00:00 (0xec2c) Node B: DELEGRETURN StateId: 96:49:9c:5b:e0:41:30:32:28:00:00:00 (0xce2c) NFS server: DELEGRETURN Node A: RENAME From: test2.txt To: test.txt NFS server: RENAME Node B: GETATTR NFS Server: GETATTR (with old inode) Node B: READ StateId: 96:49:9c:5b:e0:41:30:32:27:00:00:00 (0x7cd5) NFS Server: READ I'm a bit confused why the READ call would be using a StateId that looks like it's one bit off (27 vs 28). It's possible I'm not seeing a message in the trace, but is the NFS client doing something behind the scenes? Note the DELEGRETURN returned the StateId with the 28, and the last READ request used 27. I repeated the same test using NFS 4.1 (https://s3.amazonaws.com/gitlab-support/nfs/nfs-4.1-kernel-4.19-0-rc4-rename-test1.pcap). The behavior looks quite similar here with the DELEGRETURN and StateId values that appear to me as off-by-1. But in this case the NFS client requests a new OPEN and READ. > I'd assumed that the every open syscall would result in an on-the-wire > open or lookup, or at least a getattr to verify of the directory change > attribute to verify that the directory hasn't been modified. > > Trond tells me that's guaranteed only on the first open (of a set of > overlapping opens) from that client. You've already got another open in > your test case (if I remember correctly), so you may have to wait for > the client's cache of the parent directory to time out (could be a few > minutes). There are some mount options to control this--see the nfs man > page. Last night I left my test running on for more than 30 minutes, and the while loop still showed the stale data. I think I even turned off attribute caching entirely to see if this would help, and it did not.