Re: commit 7c2dad99d6 "Don't let the ctime override attribute barriers"

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Trond Myklebust
> <trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I think that patch introduces a problem. Since the checking for the
>>>> change in ctime was removed by the commit it leads to (improper) cache
>>>> invalidation in NFSv3.
>>>>
>>>> Test is write 10240bytes to the server then read it. Expectation is
>>>> not to see read on the wire. In the test the write is spread over
>>>> 3rpcs.
>>>>
>>>> On the 1nd reply
>>>> fattr->gencount=33 nfsi->gencount=32 generation_counter=35
>>>> On the 2nd reply
>>>> fattr->gencount=34 nfsi->gencount=36 generation_counter=36
>>>>
>>>> In the code when processing 2nd reply,
>>>> nfs_post_op_update_inode_force_wcc_locked() calls into
>>>> nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() it determines that it doesn't need to
>>>> update them (even though the size and the time have changed). so it
>>>> doesn't call nfs_wcc_update_inode() so the inode->i_version doesn't
>>>> get set to the ctime that was received in the 2nd reply.
>>>>
>>>> On the 3rd reply
>>>> fattr->gencount=37 nfsi->gencount=36 generation_counter=37
>>>>
>>>> It leads to nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() returns 1 and in the
>>>> nfs_update_inode() the difference in the ctimes leads to invalidation.
>>>> fattr->gencount was update from nfs_writeback_update_node() ->
>>>> nfs_post_op_update_inode_force_wcc() calling nfs_fattr_set_barrier().
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what appropriate values for "gencount" should have been.
>>>> But if the check for nfs_ctime_need_update() was still there in
>>>> nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() then the 2nd reply would have
>>>> appropriately updated the i_version and not lead to invalidation.
>>>
>>> Would like to add that this problem is not seen against the Linux
>>> server because it doesn't send "before" attributes. So code doesn't
>>> set the "pre_change_attr" which later doesn't make what's stored in
>>> inode->i_version.
>>>
>>> The problem also not seen for v4 because pre_change_attr is not gotten
>>> from the "before" attributes but instead from the previous value in
>>> inode->i_version which is then compared to the itself.
>>>
>>> If reverting the problematic commit is not the solution, then how
>>> about ignoring the "before" ctime attributes sent by the server. This
>>> also helps with the out-of-order RPCs.
>>
>> Why bother doing that on the client? These attributes aren't mandatory
>> to send...
>>
>
> Leads to poor client performances. Every large enough read invalidates
> the cache so all the reads go to the server always.

I'm saying why not just turn off the WCC functionality on the server then.
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