Re: commit 7c2dad99d6 "Don't let the ctime override attribute barriers"

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:45 PM, Trond Myklebust
<trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:02 PM, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Olga Kornievskaia <aglo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I think that patch introduces a problem. Since the checking for the
>>> change in ctime was removed by the commit it leads to (improper) cache
>>> invalidation in NFSv3.
>>>
>>> Test is write 10240bytes to the server then read it. Expectation is
>>> not to see read on the wire. In the test the write is spread over
>>> 3rpcs.
>>>
>>> On the 1nd reply
>>> fattr->gencount=33 nfsi->gencount=32 generation_counter=35
>>> On the 2nd reply
>>> fattr->gencount=34 nfsi->gencount=36 generation_counter=36
>>>
>>> In the code when processing 2nd reply,
>>> nfs_post_op_update_inode_force_wcc_locked() calls into
>>> nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() it determines that it doesn't need to
>>> update them (even though the size and the time have changed). so it
>>> doesn't call nfs_wcc_update_inode() so the inode->i_version doesn't
>>> get set to the ctime that was received in the 2nd reply.
>>>
>>> On the 3rd reply
>>> fattr->gencount=37 nfsi->gencount=36 generation_counter=37
>>>
>>> It leads to nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() returns 1 and in the
>>> nfs_update_inode() the difference in the ctimes leads to invalidation.
>>> fattr->gencount was update from nfs_writeback_update_node() ->
>>> nfs_post_op_update_inode_force_wcc() calling nfs_fattr_set_barrier().
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what appropriate values for "gencount" should have been.
>>> But if the check for nfs_ctime_need_update() was still there in
>>> nfs_inode_attrs_need_update() then the 2nd reply would have
>>> appropriately updated the i_version and not lead to invalidation.
>>
>> Would like to add that this problem is not seen against the Linux
>> server because it doesn't send "before" attributes. So code doesn't
>> set the "pre_change_attr" which later doesn't make what's stored in
>> inode->i_version.
>>
>> The problem also not seen for v4 because pre_change_attr is not gotten
>> from the "before" attributes but instead from the previous value in
>> inode->i_version which is then compared to the itself.
>>
>> If reverting the problematic commit is not the solution, then how
>> about ignoring the "before" ctime attributes sent by the server. This
>> also helps with the out-of-order RPCs.
>
> Why bother doing that on the client? These attributes aren't mandatory
> to send...
>

Leads to poor client performances. Every large enough read invalidates
the cache so all the reads go to the server always.
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