Re: out of order v3 write replies and cache invalidation

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:48 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 02:20:40PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:40 PM, J. Bruce Fields <bfields@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > If we assume no other writers until we close, couldn't you on close wait
>> > for all writes, send a final getattr for change attribute, and trust
>> > that?  If the extra getattr's too much, then you'd need some algorithm
>> > like the above to determine which change attribute is the last.  Or
>> > implement
>> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-nfsv4-minorversion2-41#section-12.2.3
>> > on client and server and just track the maximum returned value when the
>> > server returns something other than NFS4_CHANGE_TYPE_IS_UNDEFINED.
>> >
>>
>> The correct tool to use for resolving these caching issues is
>> ultimately a write delegation.
>>
>> You can also eliminate a lot of invalidations if you know that the
>> server implements change_attr_type ==
>> NFS4_CHANGE_TYPE_IS_VERSION_COUNTER or
>> NFS4_CHANGE_TYPE_IS_VERSION_COUNTER_NOPNFS, since that allows you to
>> predict what the attribute should be after a change.
>
> Do we know of any implementations?

Yes. The AFS client does this.

> It looks difficult (and possibly not yet sufficiently well-defined) to
> me, but I haven't thought it through.
>
> --b.
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