On Feb 26, 2014, at 2:58 PM, NeilBrown <neilb@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 08:02:42 -0800 Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> >> On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Simo Sorce <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 16:16 +1100, NeilBrown wrote: >>>> See $SUBJ >>>> >>>> Shared libraries are usually versioned so you can release a new version with >>>> an incompatible API and gradually transition to it. >>>> >>>> A rpc.mountd dlopens libnfsjunct.so with no version it is effectively >>>> prohibited from ever changing the API in an incompatible way. >>>> >>>> Both Fedora and openSUSE get upset about packaging a libFOO.so in a non >>>> "-devel" package and so trip over this library which clearly needs to be >>>> installed even if you aren't doing 'devel'opment. >>> >>> Keep in mind this rule is there only for real shared libraries that are >>> loaded by the the system loader. >>> >>> however it is waived for 'modules' that are opened dynamically but are >>> private to the application. >>> >>>> I would like to change mountd as per the patch below to use the ".0" file. >>>> I believe this will not break any installation as the ".so" is installed as a >>>> symlink to the ".0" (or maybe ".0.0.0"). >>>> >>>> Would this be acceptable? >>> >>> It looks to me like this is an internal module for mountd that is not >>> for use by other apps (which is why it is not versioned and can be >>> changed at will as it is deployed at the same time mountd is ? >> >> The plug-in API is versioned internally, but maybe I got that wrong, and should remove the API version field in favor of having consumers load via a specific .so number. > > The problem I see with using the internal versioning is that if the version > is wrong, mountd fails to provide the required service. > So while I don't object to storing the version and performing the test, we > should design work-flows so that the test can only fail if there is a serious > configuration error, not just during a software upgrade. > >> >>> Or am I wrong here ? >>> >>> If I am not wrong I would be against this change personally and would >>> rather move the .so file in a private library dir (if it is not already >>> there) to make it clear it is a private module. >> >> rpc.mountd is the only user currently, but it’s not necessarily private to mountd. A generic storage manager tool might use it to resolve NFS and FedFS referrals for display, for example. We could add plug-in API functions for creating and removing referrals to enable generic tools to perform these operations. > > This is the answer I was looking for to the question I asked earlier - thanks. > (So this is not an 'intimate library' to use Simo's term - it is truly a > shared library). > > If, one day, an incompatible ABI change was needed then we could have an > rpc.mountd installed (or still running) which requires one ABI, and a > generic storage manager tool which requires the other. > So we really need them to be stored in two different files. > e.g. libnfsjunct.so.0 and libnfsjunct.so.1 I was hoping this would never happen. One plug-in library should be able to serve mountd or any other tool that might need to play with junctions. Only a crazy developer like me would ever need to have more than one library version at a time, and even then, it’s pretty simple to build what I need and reinstall, rather than having more than one installed at a time. > To put it another way... libnfsjunct really is a shared library. > The *only* reason that rpc.mountd treats it differently to other shared > libraries is so that it can fail gracefully if the library isn't available > (thus removing hard dependencies) - a difference that I am very comfortable > with. > In every other way it should be treated like a shared library > - it should live in the standard /lib64 or whatever > - each application determines at compile-time what version it needs and finds > it by appending the version number to the base file name > - the "libfoo.so" file should live in the "-devel" package along with the > include file(s) > > > So rather than dlopening "libnfsjunct.so.0" rpc.mountd should probably > use a library name provided by the include file I’m dense, I still don’t see why this makes a difference. I’ll admit that linker fu is something I’ve left to others, so don’t be afraid to spell it out slowly for me. > Thanks, > NeilBrown > > diff --git a/utils/mountd/cache.c b/utils/mountd/cache.c > index ca35de28847a..1a8c20492869 100644 > --- a/utils/mountd/cache.c > +++ b/utils/mountd/cache.c > @@ -1139,7 +1139,11 @@ static struct exportent *lookup_junction(char *dom, const char *pathname, > struct link_map *map; > void *handle; > > - handle = dlopen("libnfsjunct.so", RTLD_NOW); > +#ifdef JP_LIB_NAME > + handle = dlopen(JP_LIB_NAME, RTLD_NOW); > +#else > + handle = dlopen("libnfsjunct.so.0", RTLD_NOW); > +#endif > if (handle == NULL) { > xlog(D_GENERAL, "%s: dlopen: %s", __func__, dlerror()); > return NULL; -- Chuck Lever chuck[dot]lever[at]oracle[dot]com -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html