Re: [PATCH] Adding the nfs4_secure_mounts bool

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On Nov 11, 2013, at 14:05, Steve Dickson <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> On 11/11/13 13:53, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
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>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 13:43, Steve Dickson <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>> On 11/11/13 13:25, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
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>>>> On Nov 11, 2013, at 13:06, Steve Dickson <SteveD@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/11/13 18:12, Myklebust, Trond wrote:
>>>>>> One alternative to the above scheme, which I believe that I’ve 
>>>>>> suggested before, is to have a permanent entry in rpc_pipefs 
>>>>>> that rpc.gssd can open and that the kernel can use to detect 
>>>>>> that it is running. If we make it /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/gssd/clnt00/gssd, 
>>>>>> then AFAICS we don’t need to change nfs-utils at all, since all newer 
>>>>>> versions of rpc.gssd will try to open for read anything of the form 
>>>>>> /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs/*/clntXX/gssd...
>>>>> 
>>>>> After further review I am going going have to disagree with you on this.
>>>>> Since all the context is cached on the initial mount the kernel
>>>> 
>>>> What context?
>>> The krb5 blob that the kernel is call up to rpc.gssd to get.. Maybe
>>> I'm using the wrong terminology???
>> 
>> That’s only the machine cred. User credentials get allocated and freed all the time.
>> 
>> When the server reboots, then all GSS contexts need to be re-established, 
>> which can be a lot of call_usermodehelper() upcalls; that’s one of the 
>> reasons why we decided in favour of a gssd daemon in the first place.
> Just curious... Why is the call_usermodehelper() upcalls more expensive
> than the rpc_pipefs upcalls?

Each upcall requires you to allocate a complete new process context and run another instance of the gssd executable. If you have enough users, then a reboot situation can quickly escalate into chewing up significantly greater amounts of memory than the single daemon does.

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