On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Adamson, Andy <William.Adamson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Nov 4, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Nico Williams wrote: >> Ideally we could store in each RPCSEC_GSS context (not GSS context) >> enough state on the client side to recover quickly when the server >> reboots. > > You mean not to use the user Kerberos credential to re-establish the GSS context with the server? Kerberos has tickets. Other GSS mechanisms don't. The GSS-API completely abstracts this, so there's no way to extract a service ticket and store it alongside the context (RPCSEC_GSS, in this case) where you might need it in the future. Storing all of a GSS-API credential (think of a whole ccache) in kernel memory is not an option either (ccaches have unbounded size). Moreover, if we do this in a light-weight enough fashion we might be able to handle all of the recovery path in kernel-mode, with no dependence on upcalls. But if we didn't by somehow extracting the service ticket and storing it in the RPCSEC_GSS context we'd probably still need to upcall to make use of it. >> How would we do this? Suppose the server gives the client a >> "ticket", and a key much like the Kerberos ticket session key is >> agreed upon or sent by the server -- that could be stored in the >> RPCSEC_GSS context and could be used to recover it quickly for >> recovery from server reboot. I'm eliding a lot of details here, but I >> believe this is fundamentally workable. > > So re-establish the RPCSEC_GSS session lost at the server on server reboot by storing enough additional info on the client? Yes. And not just server reboot. The server is free to lose RPCSEC_GSS contexts any time it wants to. Basically, we need a fast re-authentication facility that is easy to code entirely in kernel-mode. Thinking of it this way I would not reuse any Kerberos tech for this. The server would return a ticket in RPCSEC_GSS context establishment, but the ticket would consist of {secret key index, encrypted octet string} and the server and client would both compute a "session key" (for proving ticket possession) with GSS_Pseudo_random() (this way we can make this work even when the GSS mech only does MICs and not wrap tokens). To re-authenticate the client would send the ticket and an authenticator just like in Kerberos, but simpler. Nico -- -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html