Re: Write delegation

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On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:40 -0700, Yudong Gao wrote:
> I see. But according to the spec, the write delegation is supposed to
> break the close-to-open consistency so that the client can avoid
> flushing dirty page to server when closing the file. Is this part
> implemented? I can not find it in the source code...

No. We didn't do that. The main reason for continuing to flush the
writes on close is to avoid slow delegation recalls.

> Another question is how the nfs file write interacts with fscache? I
> was not able to find the code that update the page copy in fscache
> when the page in memory is modified.

AFAIK fscache is read-only at this point. I think David has plans to
make it read/write, but I don't know whether he will ever do so for NFS.

Trond

> Thanks a lot!
> 
> best,
> 
> Yudong
> 
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Trond Myklebust
> <trond.myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-04 at 14:11 -0700, Yudong Gao wrote:
> >> Thanks for the reply, Andy!
> >>
> >> So the write delegation can only reduce the unnecessary open/close and
> >> lock/locku. But if a client modify the same page for multiple times,
> >> e.g. editing the file in a editor, is there any optimization to
> >> prevent the client from sending the half-updated pages? Ideally only
> >> the final update need to be put on the wire.
> >>
> >
> > Yes. However that optimisation is not linked to whether or not we hold a
> > write delegation. The NFS client assumes close-to-open cache
> > consistency, and so will cache writes until either the VM tries to
> > reclaim memory by writing out dirty page, or the application calls one
> > of fcntl(F_UNLCK), fsync() or close().
> >
> > Trond
> >
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> best,
> >>
> >> Yudong
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Andy Adamson <andros@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Aug 4, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Yudong Gao wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am not able to find the implementation of directory delegation,
> >> >> either. Similarly, the callback functions CB_NOTIFY is not
> >> >> implemented, either. I find that in preprocss_nfs41_op() in
> >> >> callback_xdr.c, whenever a CB_NOTIFY is encountered, an
> >> >> NFS4ERR_NOTSUPP is returned directly.
> >> >
> >> > CB_NOTIFY is not currently supported on the Linux NFS client.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Am I missing something? Or they are just not supported in the current version?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks a lot!
> >> >>
> >> >> best,
> >> >>
> >> >> Yudong
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Yudong Gao <stgyd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am looking at the delegation implementation in the source code of
> >> >>> NFS 4.1 in kernel 2.6.32.15. I can find the code for read delegation,
> >> >>> which is working and can serve the read requests locally. But I can
> >> >>> never find the code about write delegation, which is supposed to cache
> >> >>> the write update locally. I try to look at the functions including
> >> >>> nfs_writepage(s), nfs_file_flush() but none of them checks or uses the
> >> >>> write delegation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Is write delegation currently implemented in NFS 4.1?
> >> >
> >> > Write delegation is supported but I don't think write behavior changes - writes are still cached and flushed as without a write delegation. The write delegation does prevent open/close and lock/locku from being put on the wire.
> >> >
> >> > -->Andy
> >> >
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> best,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yudong
> >> >>>
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