On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:16:03 -0400, Krzysztof Adamski wrote: > On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 16:28 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:42:33 -0400, Krzysztof Adamski wrote: > > > On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 10:52 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote: > > > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:10:38 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:27:20 -0400, Dennis Nezic wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:21:57 +0800, Bian Naimeng wrote: > > > > > > > > After upgrading my server (kernel 2.6.19 to 2.6.33, > > > > > > > > nfs-utils 1.1.0 to 1.2.1/1.1.4/1.1.6), and probably > > > > > > > > other stuff too), and possibly my client laptop's > > > > > > > > kernel, I have suddenly started to get these "server X > > > > > > > > not responding, timed out" errors (on my client), > > > > > > > > especially (only?) when doing large file transfers. > > > > > > > > This would lead to input/output errors, and the > > > > > > > > transfers would fail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I never noticed any such problems for over two years, > > > > > > > > using the older versions. The networking (wifi link) > > > > > > > > hasn't changed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usually the file transfer trips and falls over itself > > > > > > > > near the end > > > > > > > > -- Ie. it will do 600MB out of 800MB just fine, and then > > > > > > > > suddently start giving these "timed out" errors, and > > > > > > > > then crash and burn. At this point, I am forced to > > > > > > > > "umount -fl" the mount. If I then try to remount it, > > > > > > > > the server acnowledges my "authenticated mount > > > > > > > > requests" perfectly fine, but my client (laptop) still > > > > > > > > appears "hung". After a few minutes, I am able to > > > > > > > > remount it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I tried playing with the rsize/wsize/timeo/retrans > > > > > > > > variables, but none of it seemed to fix the problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas about what has changed? Maybe this is/was a > > > > > > > > well-known problem? :P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not know the what's the reason. And I am not sure > > > > > > > the followed discussion can fix this problem, but maybe > > > > > > > it can help you. > > > > > > > http://marc.info/?l=linux-nfs&m=123478426412524&w=2 > > > > > > > > > > > > Both the patches mentioned in that thread already seem to > > > > > > have been applied to my kernels. So, although the problem > > > > > > seems related, it wasn't that bug in particular. The person > > > > > > in that thread was talking about mounts dying after > > > > > > 5-15minutes, which doesn't happen with me > > > > > > -- my problem only seems to occur under intense activity. > > > > > > > > > > Hrm. I just noticed that my scp transfers are stalling -- > > > > > which also didn't used to happen before with my old kernel. > > > > > No error messages. Ftp transfers work fine. Eek. :S. (Despite > > > > > the freezing/stalling, my *actual* network connection works > > > > > perfectly.) > > > > > > > > > > Ideas? > > > > > > > > It seems that changing the mount options from "soft" to "hard" > > > > seems to "work" -- at least the transfers eventually finish! > > > > Although there are still stalls of 6-8minutes ... between the 16 > > > > syslog error messages: "nfs: server XYZ not responding, still > > > > trying" and the 16 subsequent error messages: "nfs: server XYZ > > > > OK". The key difference being that with "hard", it is "still > > > > trying" rather than "timed out". > > > > > > > > Now why is it stalling for so long? > > > > > > I can't tell you why, but I had the same problem with NFS server > > > in 2.6.32.*. Try 2.6.31.something to see if the problem goes away. > > > > I'll try that. > > > > (By the way, do you also access your nfs server over wifi? It > > wouldn't happen to be the b43 driver on the client side? I only ask > > because somehow (by setting timeo=10) I managed to get my client in > > a state where the transfer (actually an mplayer streaming) seemed > > frozen, but the wifi activity still appeared to be streaming. > > Although, this didn't happen before when timeo was the default > > 10minutes, so it's probably unrelated.) > > No, no wifi, just gigabit network. Hrrm. With my wired ethernet connection, I haven't (yet) been able to reproduce the problem. It looks like some kind of low-level networking (driver) problem :\. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html