Hi Chuck, hi all, [it was not ideal to pick one of the message for this followup, let me know if you want a complete new thread, adding as well Benjamin and Trond as they are involved in one mentioned patch] On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 02:31:54PM +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > > > > On Jun 17, 2024, at 2:55 AM, Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > what would be the reason for nfsd getting stuck somehow and becoming > > an unkillable process? See > > > > - https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1071562 > > - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/2062568 > > > > Doesn't this mean that something inside the kernel gets stuck as > > well? Seems odd to me. > > I'm not familiar with the Debian or Ubuntu kernel packages. Can > the kernel release numbers be translated to LTS kernel releases > please? Need both "last known working" and "first broken" releases. > > This: > > [ 6596.911785] RPC: Could not send backchannel reply error: -110 > [ 6596.972490] RPC: Could not send backchannel reply error: -110 > [ 6837.281307] RPC: Could not send backchannel reply error: -110 > > is a known set of client backchannel bugs. Knowing the LTS kernel > releases (see above) will help us figure out what needs to be > backported to the LTS kernels kernels in question. > > This: > > [11183.290619] wait_for_completion+0x88/0x150 > [11183.290623] __flush_workqueue+0x140/0x3e0 > [11183.290629] nfsd4_probe_callback_sync+0x1a/0x30 [nfsd] > [11183.290689] nfsd4_destroy_session+0x186/0x260 [nfsd] > > is probably related to the backchannel errors on the client, but > client bugs shouldn't cause the server to hang like this. We > might be able to say more if you can provide the kernel release > translations (see above). In Debian we hstill have the bug #1071562 open and one person notified mye offlist that it appears that the issue get more frequent since they updated on NFS client side from Ubuntu 20.04 to Debian bookworm with a 6.1.y based kernel). Some people around those issues, seem to claim that the change mentioned in https://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-devel/2024-July/064614.html would fix the issue, which is as well backchannel related. This is upstream: 6ddc9deacc13 ("SUNRPC: Fix backchannel reply, again"). While this commit fixes 57331a59ac0d ("NFSv4.1: Use the nfs_client's rpc timeouts for backchannel") this is not something which goes back to 6.1.y, could it be possible that hte backchannel refactoring and this final fix indeeds fixes the issue? As people report it is not easily reproducible, so this makes it harder to identify fixes correctly. I gave a (short) stance on trying to backport commits up to 6ddc9deacc13 ("SUNRPC: Fix backchannel reply, again") but this quickly seems to indicate it is probably still not the right thing for backporting to the older stable series. As at least pre-requisites: 2009e32997ed568a305cf9bc7bf27d22e0f6ccda 4119bd0306652776cb0b7caa3aea5b2a93aecb89 163cdfca341b76c958567ae0966bd3575c5c6192 f4afc8fead386c81fda2593ad6162271d26667f8 6ed8cdf967f7e9fc96cd1c129719ef99db2f9afc 57331a59ac0d680f606403eb24edd3c35aecba31 and still there would be conflicting codepaths (and does not seem right). Chuck, Benjamin, Trond, is there anything we can provive on reporters side that we can try to tackle this issue better? Regards, Salvatore
