On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 7:36 PM Chuck Lever III <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 18, 2023, at 1:03 PM, Trond Myklebust <trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2023-11-18 at 17:03 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > >> > >>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 11:49 AM, Trond Myklebust > >>> <trondmy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sat, 2023-11-18 at 16:41 +0000, Chuck Lever III wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Nov 18, 2023, at 1:42 AM, Cedric Blancher > >>>>> <cedric.blancher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 08:42, Cedric Blancher > >>>>> <cedric.blancher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How owns bugzilla.linux-nfs.org? > >>>>> > >>>>> Apologies for the type, it should be "who", not "how". > >>>>> > >>>>> But the problem remains, I still did not get an account > >>>>> creation > >>>>> token > >>>>> via email for *ANY* of my email addresses. It appears account > >>>>> creation > >>>>> is broken. > >>>> > >>>> Trond owns it. But he's already showed me the SMTP log from > >>>> Sunday night: a token was sent out. Have you checked your > >>>> spam folders? > >>> > >>> I'm closing it down. It has been run and paid for by me, but I > >>> don't > >>> have time or resources to keep doing so. > >> > >> Understood about lack of resources, but is there no-one who can > >> take over for you, at least in the short term? Yanking it out > >> without warning is not cool. > >> > >> Does this announcement include git.linux-nfs.org > >> <http://git.linux-nfs.org/> and > >> wiki.linux-nfs.org <http://wiki.linux-nfs.org/> as well? > >> > >> As this site is a long-time community-used resource, it would > >> be fair if we could come up with a transition plan if it truly > >> needs to go away. > >> > > > > Ever since the NFSv4 code went into the kernel, I've been telling you > > that bugzilla.linux-nfs.org is deprecated. > > I don't recall that, and the usual courteous thing to do is > put a banner on the log in page for a time, or at least > warn folks that the site going away imminently. > > > > We don't need 2 bug tracking > > resources, and bugzilla.kernel.org is the more general option that > > tracks all Linux kernel related issues. > > bugzilla.linux-nfs.org <http://bugzilla.linux-nfs.org/> is for upstream nfs-utils bugs too, > and I think there were even one or two TI-RPC related bugs > there as well. So, not redundant in the least. > > But I see you've already taken the whole thing down, so I > guess that's moot. > > I can only regard the tone and suddenness of this removal > as a personal jab, since you know very well that Jeff and > I were still using the site and that we had bugs and to-dos > in flight. Could you please tone it down? I don't think it was intended as a "personal jab". Sounds more like Trond is in pain. But I'm also sour about this, but for different reasons: There is no single altruistic company who easily can help out quickly since Sun Microsystems went down. I bitterly remember the LinuxTag/LinuxWorld conferences here in Germany where they were singing mocking songs about SUN&Solaris, "Linux WON, we'll take over the world' blabla. They forgot who helped them, and were always nice to the Opensource world. Who is left now? SUN is gone, HP&IBM mostly look at money (that includes Redhat, who now gets ruined by IBM's bean counters), and who is left and will altruistically help out in such a situation? Thanks, Martin
