Sorry for the delayed response... Chuck Lever wrote: > Hi Steve- > > On Mar 9, 2009, at Mar 9, 2009, 4:44 PM, Steve Dickson wrote: >> Hello, >> >> The following patch set introduces a configuration file where >> mount options can be define. The options in the file can be >> applied globally or per server or per mount point. >> >> The patch set reuses the configuration parsing code that >> idmapd uses. I did added a couple enhancements like ignoring >> blanks in certain definitions as well as at the beginning of >> assignment statements. >> >> There are man pages include in the patch set but in a >> nut shell, the configuration file has three basic types >> of sections. A global section, server section and mount point >> section. There can only be one global section and multiple >> server and mount point sections. >> >> The mount command prioritize these sections in the following >> way: >> * Options on the command line are always used. >> >> * Options defined in the mount point section are used >> as long a the options are not in the command line options. >> >> * Options defined in the server section are used as long as >> they are not defined on the command line or in the mount point >> section. >> >> * Options defined in the global section are used as long as the >> options are not on the command line or in the mount point section >> or in the server section. > > This can become challenging to troubleshoot if there are these > semi-hidden options (cf. selinux). Why? 'mount -v' clearly shows what options are being used and then of course 'cat /proc/mounts' will show all the mount options. > > I don't get why the per-mount section is even needed -- currently, the > mount options in /etc/fstab are used automatically if no options are > specified on the command line. Sure... this is option redundant with /etc/fstab but why not allow people configure all the NFS mounts in one spot? Why make them edit different files? Plus it was just really easy to do... > > Is there a specific use case you have in mind for the per-mount > section? Not really... I figure would handy allow different options on different file system to the same server... > You just want a user to say "-o noac" and she will get all the > remaining options in the per-mount section too? Yes.. the per-mount section will be added on to the command line options. > I guess that means you also need to know when to specify the opposite to > turn off the options listed in this section (like using "-o ac" if noac > is contained in this section). So again, that doesn't seem like especially > helpful behaviour in some cases. Not sure I understand your point... but regardless setting 'ac=true' will cause the '-o ac' option to be added and 'ac=false' will cause the '-o noac' option to be added... > > This scheme doesn't allow conditional options: "always use retrans=10 if > proto=udp was specified, but retrans=2 if proto=tcp was specified." True.. conditional options are not supported... until there is a demand for them... > >> This is the first step toward moving the default NFS version from 3 to 4 >> on the client. > > I would think that the _only_ step is to implement the version fallback > logic; ie. if the server doesn't support NFSv4, then use NFSv3, then > NFSv2. Why can't an admin simply specify a fixed NFS version > (nfsvers=3) if there is a problem with NFSv4? They can... Nfsvers=3. When that is set, there will be no negotiation > It seems to me that if the admin hasn't specified nfsvers=, then she does > not care which NFS version is used. True. And then the highest version the server supports will be negotiated. Having a Max/Min version will allow a the client to control that negotiation... Say the want v4 but not v4.1 ? Or may they only v41? > >> Having a configuration file which allows users to define >> the maximum and minimum NFS versions that should be negotiated is the >> right thing to do... IMHO.. Even though this patch does not does not >> do that, it does lay the ground work for that type of functionality Well I think most admins do want complete control over which NFS version will or will not be used... esp when it comes to v4 and v4.1 thanks! steved. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html