Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 03:39:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com> From: Chris Hanson <cph@zurich.ai.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 20:48:13 -0400 So, could you explain to me why this change was made? Until we bring up the device it hasn't been programmed. And because of that, the link beat signal is unreliable. It remains unreliable until we program the PHY of the chip. We do not program the device into a usable state until it is upped so that we do not have to allocate resources (memory, etc.) while a device is down. I see. So I assume that means all of the drivers will be updated to require this, rather than just the small number that now does? - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html