Re: ICMP: Source quench?

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On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 11:12:31PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > Personally I suggest allowing the following ICMP types:
> > >          0      Echo Reply
> > >          3      Destination Unreachable
> > >         11      Time Exceeded
> > >         12      Parameter Problem

> 0 is optional but useful, 11 can be used for certain kinds of DoS attack 
> against some hosts.

	Echo Reply is bad news since several of the DDoS zombies
communicate by way of ICMP Echo Reply with encrypted payloads.

> > > and dropping the rest (you must allow ICMP type 3).

> > Why must type 3 be allowed?

> It makes it possible to use TCP. Path MTU discovery requires destination
> unreachable

	Bingo.  Bad Juju.

> > Wouldn't it make it harder to do portscans and similar things, if one drops all
> > outgoing "Destination Unreachable" packets?

> Far more productive is to fake connection accepts on all other ports 8)

	Mike
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