Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] Fix proposal for the Micron shallow erase issue

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On 1/15/20 2:13 AM, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> Hi Boris,
> 
> Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote on Wed, 15 Jan
> 2020 08:58:06 +0100:
> 
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 20:46:17 +0000
>> "Wojtaszczyk, Piotr" <WojtaszczykP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/14/20 3:12 AM, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>>>> Crap. I'll not resend immediately as this is an RFC, I expect
>>>> feedback on this proposal before sending an actual patch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Miquèl
>>>>      
>>>
>>> Hi Miquèl, here are some my comments:
>>>
>>> +static int micron_nand_avoid_shallow_erase(struct nand_chip *chip,
>>> +					   unsigned int eb)
>>> +{
>>> +	struct micron_nand *micron = nand_get_manufacturer_data(chip);
>>> +	unsigned int page = eb * nanddev_pages_per_eraseblock(&chip->base);
>>> +	u8 *databuf = nand_get_data_buf(chip);
>>> +	int ret, i;
>>> +
>>> +	memset(databuf, 0xFF, nanddev_page_size(&chip->base));
>>> +
>>> +	/* Micron advises to only write odd pages */
>>> +	for (i = 0; i < MICRON_SHALLOW_ERASE_MIN_PAGE; i += 2, page += 2) {
>>> +		if (!(micron->writtenp[eb] & BIT(i))) {
>>> +			ret = nand_write_page_raw(chip, databuf, false, page);
>>> +			if (ret)
>>> +				return ret;
>>> +		}
>>> +	}
>>> +
>>> +	return 0;
>>> +}
>>>
>>> Shouldn't we program only the OOB area of the pages to 0'es? Programming pages to 0xFF
>>> which are already 0xFF takes more time and doesn't make any difference.
>>
>> Hm, I'm pretty sure we should set in-band data to 0, not 0xff.
>> Programming only the OOB portion might not be enough for the internal
>> "is page written?" logic to return true.
> 
> Absolutely, this is a mistake, the idea is to program all cells (to 0).
> 
>>> Also after power loss all flags in micron->writtenp are gone so the
>>> micron_nand_avoid_shallow_erase will perform on all PEBs causing performance loss.
>>
>> Yes, that's a performance hit we'll have to accept for now.
>>
> 
> This is quite severe issue, this is the best idea we came with to
> limit performance hits.

This will be an issue on devices which restarts quite often, what if we read OOB of middle 
page of the block we are about to erase and if it has all 0xff the it means it is 
partially programmed and needs the quirk. It's reading 64/128 bytes (depending on NAND 
size) before every erase versus programming 8 pages on each PEB erase once per device restart.

Also I know by speaking with Micron that programming 0 in spare area is enough and 
actually we should program 8 even/odd pages starting from middle of PEB. In case PEB has 
64 pages we should program OOB of page 31,33,35,37,39,41,43,45 or 32,34,36,38,40,42,44,46
Can somebody from Micron confirm that?
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