Adrian, Linus, Thanks for looking into this and reporting! On 18 October 2016 at 15:23, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 18/10/16 11:36, Linus Walleij wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Before this patch the eMMC is detected and all partitions enumerated >>> immediately, but after the patch it doesn't come up at all, except >>> sometimes, when it appears minutes (!) after boot, all of a sudden. >> >> FYI this is what it looks like when it eventually happens: >> root@msm8660:/ [ 627.710175] mmc0: new high speed MMC card at address 0001 >> [ 627.711641] mmcblk0: mmc0:0001 SEM04G 3.69 GiB >> [ 627.715485] mmcblk0boot0: mmc0:0001 SEM04G partition 1 1.00 MiB >> [ 627.736654] mmcblk0boot1: mmc0:0001 SEM04G partition 2 1.00 MiB >> [ 627.747397] mmcblk0rpmb: mmc0:0001 SEM04G partition 3 128 KiB >> [ 627.756326] mmcblk0: p1 p2 p3 p4 < p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 p11 p12 p13 >> p14 p15 p16 p17 p18 p19 p20 p21 > >> >> So after 627 seconds, a bit hard for users to wait this long for their >> root filesystem. > > If the driver does not support busy detection and the eMMC card provides > zero as the cmd6 generic timeout (which it may especially as cmd6 generic > timeout wasn't added until eMMCv4.5), then __mmc_switch() defaults to > waiting 10 minutes i.e. > > #define MMC_OPS_TIMEOUT_MS (10 * 60 * 1000) /* 10 minute timeout */ Urgh! Yes, I have verified that this is exactly what happens. > > So removal of CMD13 polling for HS mode (as per commit > 08573eaf1a70104f83fdbee9b84e5be03480e9ed) is going to be a problem for some > combinations of eMMC cards and host drivers. I was looking in the __mmc_switch() function, it's just a pain to walk trough it :-) So first out I decided to clean it up and factor out the polling parts. I will post the patches first out tomorrow morning, running some final test right now. Although, that of course doesn't solve our problem. As I see it we only have a few options here. 1) In case when cmd6 generic timeout isn't available, let's assign another empirically selected value. 2) Use a specific timeout when switching to HS mode. 3) Even if we deploy 1 (and 2), perhaps we still should allow polling with CMD13 for switching to HS mode - unless it causes issues for some cards/drivers combination? BTW, I already tried 2) and it indeed solves the problem, although depending on the selected timeout, it might delay the card detection to process. Thoughts? Kind regards Uffe -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html