Re: [PATCH] mmc: dw_mmc: Wait for data transfer after response errors

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在 2016/3/31 1:26, Russell King - ARM Linux 写道:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 07:16:18PM +0200, Enric Balletbo Serra wrote:
2016-03-24 17:22 GMT+01:00 Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:06:45AM -0700, Doug Anderson wrote:
Russell,
...
Presumably this is similar to what you saw: the host saw the CRC error
but the card knew nothing about it.  Sending the stop command during
this time confused the card.  Presumably the card was in transfer
state during this time?

If the card was in transfer state for a command which expects a stop
command, and that stop command was issued after the card entered
the transfer state, then I'd expect the card to handle it... though
there's always the firmware bug issue.

If the card hadn't entered transfer state at the time the stop command
was issued.. I think that's more likely to hit card firmware issues.

With the tuning commands, there's another case you can hit though:
the data transfer may have completed before you get around to sending
the stop command.

That's why, for sdhci, I came to the conclusion that waiting for the
data transfer to complete or timeout was the best solution for SDHCI.


In fact I only saw the problem with dw_mmc-exynos, on dw_mmc-rockchip
it doesn't happen because it enables the DW_MCI_QUIRK_BROKEN_DTO
behaviour. What does this is use a kernel timer to signal when DTO
interrupt does NOT come. Note that if I disable this quirk I can also
saw the problem on rockchip.

Maybe, if sending a STOP command does cause card firmware issues, then:

1) it provides evidence that trying to send a stop command on response
    CRC error is the wrong thing to do (it was talked about making SDHCI
    do this.)


Seems the same here, so guess is the wrong thing to do.

2) it suggests that the solution I came up with for SDHCI is the better
    solution, rather than trying to immediately recover the situation by
    sending a STOP command.


I'm wondering if just enable this quirk on exynos too is the proper
solution. Unfortunately I don't have enough documentation to check
differences between those controllers.
Also will really help have access to some hardware that uses
dw_mmc-pltfm to check if, like on exynos, same issue is triggered.
Anyone with the hardware who can do some tests?

I'd really suggest that the dw-mmc folk place a moritorium on quirk
flags, and instead deal with situations like this without resorting
to this kind of thing.


Some quirks and some callbacks have been cleaned in Jaehoon's repo,and
still some are going to removed. Finally we do plan to turn dw_mmc core
into a pure library..

sdhci is a good example why the quirk flag approach is totally wrong,
and shows that it leads to an unmaintainable mess.  If dw-mmc people
don't want the driver to decend into the same state that sdhci is,
then things like this should not be quirks.  sdhci already has a
long-term moritorium on quirk flags until the resulting mess has been
cleaned up.

The danger that quirk flags cause is also highlighted in your mail:
it's very likely that this _isn't_ a host controller issue at all,

Two issues found by dw_mmc-rockchip part,
(1) need reset idma when switching between fifo-transfer and
idma-transfer. When biu:ciu > 1:6, idma internal fsm take a risk of
a race condition to maintain its fifo lookup pointer. It can be very
easy reproduce by seting biu:ciu > 1:6.. Common bug for dw_mmc! But unfortunately these details was missing in the commit msg.

(2) Missing DTO/DRTO; I missed the thread for this topic, so I need to
reproduce it by setting a simple C model code. I can't say more
currently until we can find a way to easily reproduce it. But I guess
it's NOT a host issue....since I slightly glance at the TMOUT reg at dw_mmc databook and find a software timer requirement:

31:8 data_timeout 0xffffff
Value for card Data Read Timeout; same value also used for Data
Starvation by Host timeout. The timeout counter is started only after thecard clock is stopped. Value is in number of card output clocks – cclk_out of selected card.

Note: The software timer should be used if the timeout value is in the order of 100 ms. In this case, read data timeout interrupt needs to be disabled.

but a MMC protocol issue or a card issue - and the behaviour required
here is not specific to any particular host controller.  The problem
with having a quirk flag for it is that you end up with some hosts
enabling it, and other hosts having it disabled only because they
haven't yet tripped over the issue.



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Best Regards
Shawn Lin

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