Re: [PATCH 02/13] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning

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On 01/13/15 15:56, Ulf Hansson wrote:
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Thank you for looking at the patches.

I am not sure I know what you mean. sdhci already has a re-tuning timer, so
this is just moving it into core, where it won't be used by other drivers
unless they enable it.

I am kind of questioning the re-tuning timer in sdhci. What is it good for?

It is part of the SD Host Controller Standard Specification. The timer
ensures that re-tuning is done before temperature changes could affect the
"sampling point". It is needed for re-tuning mode 1 for UHS-I modes like SDR104.

Does the spec say what value the timer should have?

It is read from the Capabilities register in the SD host controller, ie. in field "Timer Count for Re-Tuning" (see below).

Regards,
Arend

Timer Count for Re-Tuning
This field indicates an initial value of the Re-Tuning Timer for Re-Tuning Mode 1 to 3. Setting to 0 disables Re-Tuning Timer.
0h	Re-Tuning Timer disabled
1h	1 seconds
2h	2 seconds
3h	4 seconds
4h	8 seconds
.....	......................
n	2(n-1) seconds
.....	......................
Bh	1024 seconds
Eh - Ch	Reserved
Fh	Get information from other source



Can sdhci rely on that the mmc core performs a re-tune from the
request retry mechanism instead?

Not according to the standard.

We don't have to implement everything that comes with the standard. We
can leave things out.




I am not sure what you want to leave in sdhci.c and what you want in core,
if anything.

We need all the infrastructure code in the core. Much like what your
patchset does. Except that I would like you to remove the option of
having a timer and the corresponding complexity it adds.

If we are going to follow the standard then that doesn't seem to be an option.

I am not suggestion us to violating the spec. I am suggesting to
currently not support all of it.




At a minimum I need sdhci to be able to switch from hs400 to hs200, re-tune,
and switch back.

As stated, I am only questioning the timer, nothing else.

Ok so how should I proceed?


As I stated, let's try without the timer first.

If we find it's not enough to recover at the request retry path, since
it happens too often - lets deal with that then.

Okay?

Kind regards
Uffe

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