Re: [PATCH 02/13] mmc: host: Add facility to support re-tuning

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On 01/13/15 15:22, Ulf Hansson wrote:
On 13 January 2015 at 14:23, Adrian Hunter<adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
On 13/01/15 13:25, Ulf Hansson wrote:
Hi Adrian,

Thanks for working on this and apologize for my late reply!

On 5 December 2014 at 18:41, Adrian Hunter<adrian.hunter@xxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
Currently, there is core support for tuning during
initialization. There can also be a need to re-tune
periodically (e.g. sdhci) or to re-tune after the
host controller is powered off (e.g. after PM
runtime suspend / resume) or to re-tune in response
to CRC errors.

The main requirements for re-tuning are:
   - ability to enable /disable re-tuning
   - ability to flag that re-tuning is needed
   - ability to re-tune before any request
   - ability to hold off re-tuning if the card is busy
   - ability to hold off re-tuning if re-tuning is in
   progress
   - ability to run a re-tuning timer

I suggest we skip the support for the re-tuning timer in this initial
step and thus remove the related functionality from this patchset. It
adds complexity, but more important it's not obvious that it actually
will help. I am more concerned that it randomly will cause a request
latency and thus decrease performance.

The re-tuning period can't be selected "perfectly", so in this initial
step let's instead just rely on re-tune from the request retry path.

If we do see a need for a doing re-tuning periodically, how about
using the runtime PM suspend path (of the mmc card device). In that
way, we should be able to minimize the impact on performance.

Thank you for looking at the patches.

I am not sure I know what you mean. sdhci already has a re-tuning timer, so
this is just moving it into core, where it won't be used by other drivers
unless they enable it.

I am kind of questioning the re-tuning timer in sdhci. What is it good for?

It is good for complying with the SD Host controller spec. In section "2.2.25 Capabilities Register (pg. 74) the different "Re-Tuning Modes" are described. Guess these different should be taken into account in this patch series although in sdhci only the retuning timer was supported.

Regards,
Arend

Can sdhci rely on that the mmc core performs a re-tune from the
request retry mechanism instead?


I am not sure what you want to leave in sdhci.c and what you want in core,
if anything.

We need all the infrastructure code in the core. Much like what your
patchset does. Except that I would like you to remove the option of
having a timer and the corresponding complexity it adds.


At a minimum I need sdhci to be able to switch from hs400 to hs200, re-tune,
and switch back.

As stated, I am only questioning the timer, nothing else.

Kind regards
Uffe

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