Hi Rafael, On Friday 15 June 2012 12:03:02 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Thursday, June 14, 2012, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > On Thursday, June 14, 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > On Thursday 14 June 2012 21:37:26 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > On Thursday, June 14, 2012, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 14 June 2012 20:12:33 Magnus Damm wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > > > > > The tmio_mmc_set_ios() function configures the MMC power, clock > > > > > > > and bus width. When the MMC controller gets powered off, runtime > > > > > > > PM switches the MSTP clock off. Writing to to > > > > > > > CTL_SD_MEM_CARD_OPT register afterwards fails and prints an > > > > > > > error message to the kernel log. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As configuring the bus width is pointless when the interface > > > > > > > gets powered down, skip the operation when power is off. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Laurent Pinchart > > > > > > > <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all, thanks for reporting this issue and coming up with a > > > > > > fix! > > > > > > > > > > You're welcome. You can expect more of them ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > Can you please explain a bit more about when this triggers? Is > > > > > > this related to suspend-to-ram perhaps? Which hardware platform? > > > > > > Is CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME=y set? > > > > > > > > > > I've noticed the problem on the Armadillo board with > > > > > CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME=y. > > > > > The driver spits out "timeout waiting for SD bus idle" error > > > > > messages more or less continuously. > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that this may be a side effect of the current PM code > > > > > > used on the A1 SoC (which is hooked up on the armadillo board). > > > > > > > > > > > > In short, the A1 SoC does not yet make use of PM domains, but AP4 > > > > > > and the mackerel board (sh7372 based) is using PM domains. > > > > > > > > > > Does this mean that runtime PM is a no-op on A1 ? That would > > > > > surprise me, as turning CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME off gets rid of the > > > > > problem, so runtime PM is somehow involved. Even if the power domain > > > > > does not get turned off, can't the MSTP clock be turned off ? > > > > > > > > The problem is, most likely, that with CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME set the code > > > > in drivers/sh/pm_runtime.c triggers and that causes default_pm_domain > > > > to be used. > > > > > > > > So, I don't really think we need to "fix" every driver in turn, > > > > default_pm_domain seems to be what needs fixing. I'm not exactly sure > > > > how to fix it at the moment, though. > > > > > > But isn't there still an issue in the driver itself ? If my > > > understanding is correct, calling pm_runtime_put() essentially means "I > > > won't need to touch the device from now on, it can be suspended it > > > needed/useful/appropriate/whatever". The runtime PM core is then free to > > > turn the power domain and/or clock off synchronously or with a delay, > > > or do nothing. After signaling that it won't need to touch the device, > > > the driver should really avoid touching the device until the next > > > pm_runtime_get_sync() call. > > > > That's correct, the hardware shouldn't be touched after runtime suspend. > > On a second thought, runtime suspend should only happen when it is _known_ > that the hardware won't be accessed. So, if the hardware _is_ accessed > after runtime suspend, the runtime suspend shouldn't have happened in the > first place. > > That's why I don't think it is correct to "harden" code paths that shouldn't > be entered after runtime suspend in the first place. I don't think we disagree is. The problem with the TMIO driver is that it entered after runtime suspend a code path that should not be entered. When the driver is notified by the MMC core that access to the card is not needed anymore, it correctly signal to the runtime PM core that the device can be suspended, but then tried to setup the device nonetheless. There's no point in setting up the device after we get told that we don't need it anymore, it will be setup when resumed anyway. That's the code path that was wrong, and is fixed by my patch. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-mmc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html