Re: [RFC] shmgetfd idea

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:05 PM, John Stultz <john.stultz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 01/28/2014 01:01 PM, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM, John Stultz <john.stultz@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On 01/28/2014 12:37 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>>> On 01/28/2014 11:56 AM, John Stultz wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for reminding me about O_TMPFILE.. I have it on my list to look
>>>>> into how it could be used.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for the O_TMPFILE only tmpfs option, it seems maybe a little clunky
>>>>> to me, but possible. If others think this would be preferred over a new
>>>>> syscall, I'll dig in deeper.
>>>>>
>>>> What is clunky about it?  It reuses an existing interface and still
>>>> points to the specific tmpfs instance that should be populated.
>>> It would require new mount point convention that userland would have to
>>> standardize.  To me (and admittedly its a taste thing), a new
>>> O_TMPFILE-only tmpfs mount point seems to be to be a bigger interface
>>> change from an application writers perspective then a new syscall.
>>>
>>> But maybe I'm misunderstanding your suggestion?
>> General purpose Linux has /dev/shm/ for that already, which will not
>> go away anytime soon..
>
> Right, though making /dev/shm/ O_TMPFILE only would likely break things, no?

Right, general purpose Linux could not mount with that option without
expecting major breakage, see: man shm_overview. But a custom OS could
just define that, I guess.

The current /dev/shm/ semantics and the shm apis in general are a kind
of a broken idea from the very beginning.

Kay

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