Re: [PATCH v6 4/5] mm/migrate: skip migrating folios under writeback with AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE mappings

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On 12/21/24 2:01 AM, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 03:49:39PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> I'm wondering if there would be a way to just "cancel" the writeback and
>>>> mark the folio dirty again. That way it could be migrated, but not
>>>> reclaimed. At least we could avoid the whole AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is what I basically meant with short timeouts. Obviously it is not
>>> that simple to cancel the request and to retry - it would add in quite
>>> some complexity, if all the issues that arise can be solved at all.
>>
>> At least it would keep that out of core-mm.
>>
>> AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE really has weird smell to it ... we should try to
>> improve such scenarios, not acknowledge and integrate them, then work around
>> using timeouts that must be manually configured, and ca likely no be default
>> enabled because it could hurt reasonable use cases :(
> 
> Just to be clear AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE is being used in two core-mm
> parts. First is reclaim and second is compaction/migration. For reclaim,
> it is a must have as explained by Jingbo in [1] i.e. due to potential
> self deadlock by fuse server. If I understand you correctly, the main
> concern you have is its usage in the second case.
> 
> The reason for adding AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE in the second case was
> to avoid untrusted fuse server causing pain to unrelated jobs on the
> machine (fuse folks please correct me if I am wrong here).

Right, IIUC direct MIGRATE_SYNC migration won't be triggered on the
memory allocation path, i.e. the fuse server itself won't stumble into
MIGRATE_SYNC migration.

-- 
Thanks,
Jingbo




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