Re: [PATCH v6 4/5] mm/migrate: skip migrating folios under writeback with AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE mappings

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On 19.12.24 18:54, Shakeel Butt wrote:
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 09:44:42AM -0800, Joanne Koong wrote:
On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 9:37 AM Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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The request is canceled then - that should clear the page/folio state


I start to wonder if we should introduce really short fuse request
timeouts and just repeat requests when things have cleared up. At least
for write-back requests (in the sense that fuse-over-network might
be slow or interrupted for some time).



Thanks Bernd for the response. Can you tell a bit more about the request
timeouts? Basically does it impact/clear the page/folio state as well?

Request timeouts can be set by admins system-wide to protect against
malicious/buggy fuse servers that do not reply to requests by a
certain amount of time. If the request times out, then the whole
connection will be aborted, and pages/folios will be cleaned up
accordingly. The corresponding patchset is here [1]. This helps
mitigate the possibility of unprivileged buggy servers tieing up
writeback state by not replying.


Thanks a lot Joanne and Bernd.

David, does these timeouts resolve your concerns?

Thanks for that information. Yes and no. :)

Bernd wrote: "I start to wonder if we should introduce really short fuse request timeouts and just repeat requests when things have cleared up. At least for write-back requests (in the sense that fuse-over-network might be slow or interrupted for some time).

Indicating to me that while timeouts might be supported soon (will there be a sane default?) even trusted implementations can run into this (network example above) where timeouts might actually be harmful I suppose?

I'm wondering if there would be a way to just "cancel" the writeback and mark the folio dirty again. That way it could be migrated, but not reclaimed. At least we could avoid the whole AS_WRITEBACK_INDETERMINATE thing.

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Cheers,

David / dhildenb





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