Re: possible regression fs corruption on 64GB nvme

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 ---- On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 18:53:23 +0100  Keith Busch  wrote --- 
 > On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 06:27:55PM +0100, Robert Beckett wrote:
 > > nvme.io_queue_depth=2 appears to fix it. Could you explain the implications of this?
 > > I assume it is limiting to 2 outstanding requests concurrently.
 > 
 > You'd think so, but not quite. NVMe queues need to leave one entry
 > empty, so a submission queue with depth "2" means you can have at most 1
 > command outstanding.
 > 
 > > Does it suggest an issue with the specific device's FW?
 > 
 > I think that sounds probable. Especially considering the dmapool code
 > has had considerable run time in real life, and no other such issue has
 > been reported.
 > 
 > > I assume this would suggest that it is not actually anything wrong with the dmapool, it was just exposing the issue of the device/fw?
 > 
 > That's what I'm thinking, though, if you have a single queue with depth
 > 2, we're not stressing the dmapool implementation either. It's always
 > going to return the same dma block for each command.
 > 
 > > Any advice for handling this and/or investigating further?
 > 
 > If you have the resources for it, get protocol analyzer trace and show
 > it to your nvme vendor.

Unfortunately this is infeasible for us.

 >  
 > > My initial speculation was that maybe the disk fw is signalling completion of an access before it has actually finished making it's way to ram. I checked the code and saw that the dmapool appears to be used for storing the buffer page addresses, so I imagine that is not updated by the disk at all, which would rule out my assumption.
 > 
 > Right, it's used to make the prp/sgl list. Once we get a completion,
 > that dma block becomes immediately available for the very next command.
 > If you have a higher queue depth, it's possible that dma block is reused
 > immediately while the driver is still notifying the block layer of the
 > completion.
 > 
 > If we're thinking that the device is completing the command before it's
 > really done with the list (which could explain your observation), that
 > would be a problem. Going to single queue-depth might introduce a delay
 > or work around some firmware issue when dealing with concurrent
 > commands.
 > 
 > Prior to the "new" dmapool allocation, it was much less likely (though I
 > think still possible) for your next command to reuse the same dma block
 > of the command currently being completed.
 > 

given this ~9 year old temporary fix is still in the kernel for the Apple device, could we just add another device specific override? I could maybe convert it to a quirk that is set for them both (and any future devices)




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