On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:55:11AM -0400, Peter Xu wrote: > Jason, > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 10:30:12AM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 06:08:02PM -0400, peterx@xxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > > A quick performance test on an aarch64 VM on M1 chip shows 15% degrade over > > > a tight loop of slow gup after the path switched. That shouldn't be a > > > problem because slow-gup should not be a hot path for GUP in general: when > > > page is commonly present, fast-gup will already succeed, while when the > > > page is indeed missing and require a follow up page fault, the slow gup > > > degrade will probably buried in the fault paths anyway. It also explains > > > why slow gup for THP used to be very slow before 57edfcfd3419 ("mm/gup: > > > accelerate thp gup even for "pages != NULL"") lands, the latter not part of > > > a performance analysis but a side benefit. If the performance will be a > > > concern, we can consider handle CONT_PTE in follow_page(). > > > > I think this is probably fine for the moment, at least for this > > series, as CONT_PTE is still very new. > > > > But it will need to be optimized. "slow" GUP is the only GUP that is > > used by FOLL_LONGTERM and it still needs to be optimized because you > > can't assume a FOLL_LONGTERM user will be hitting the really slow > > fault path. There are enough important cases where it is just reading > > already populted page tables, and these days, often with large folios. > > Ah, I thought FOLL_LONGTERM should work in most cases for fast-gup, > especially for hugetlb, but maybe I missed something? Ah, no this is my bad memory, there was a time where that was true, but it is not the case now. Oh, it is a really bad memory because it seems I removed parts of it :) > I do see that devmap skips fast-gup for LONGTERM, we also have that > writeback issue but none of those that I can find applies to > hugetlb. This might be a problem indeed if we have hugetlb cont_pte > pages that will constantly fallback to slow gup. Right, DAX would be the main use case I can think of. Today the intersection of DAX and contig PTE is non-existant so lets not worry. > OTOH, I also agree with you that such batching would be nice to have for > slow-gup, likely devmap or many fs (exclude shmem/hugetlb) file mappings > can at least benefit from it due to above. But then that'll be a more > generic issue to solve, IOW, we still don't do that for !hugetlb cont_pte > large folios, before or after this series. Right, improving contig pte is going to be a process and eventually it will make sense to optimize this regardless of hugetlbfs Jason