On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:02:59PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote: > <sthanneeru.opensrc@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > ============= > > Version Notes: > > > > V2 : Changed interface to memtier_override from adistance_offset. > > memtier_override was recommended by > > 1. John Groves <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > 2. Ravi Shankar <ravis.opensrc@xxxxxxxxxx> > > 3. Brice Goglin <Brice.Goglin@xxxxxxxx> > > It appears that you ignored my comments for V1 as follows ... > > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87o7f62vur.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87jzpt2ft5.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/87a5qp2et0.fsf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/ > Not speaking for the group, just chiming in because i'd discussed it with them. "Memory Type" is a bit nebulous. Is a Micron Type-3 with performance X and an SK Hynix Type-3 with performance Y a "Different type", or are they the "Same Type" given that they're both Type 3 backed by some form of DDR? Is socket placement of those devices relevant for determining "Type"? Is whether they are behind a switch relevant for determining "Type"? "Type" is frustrating when everything we're talking about managing is "Type-3" with difference performance. A concrete example: To the system, a Multi-Headed Single Logical Device (MH-SLD) looks exactly the same as an standard SLD. I may want to have some combination of local memory expansion devices on the majority of my expansion slots, but reserve 1 slot on each socket for a connection to the MH-SLD. As of right now: There is no good way to differentiate the devices in terms of "Type" - and even if you had that, the tiering system would still lump them together. Similarly, an initial run of switches may or may not allow enumeration of devices behind it (depends on the configuration), so you may end up with a static numa node that "looks like" another SLD - despite it being some definition of "GFAM". Do number of hops matter in determining "Type"? So I really don't think "Type" is useful for determining tier placement. As of right now, the system lumps DRAM nodes as one tier, and pretty much everything else as "the other tier". To me, this patch set is an initial pass meant to allow user-control over tier composition while the internal mechanism is sussed out and the environment develops. In general, a release valve that lets you redefine tiers is very welcome for testing and validation of different setups while the industry evolves. Just my two cents. ~Gregory > -- > Best Regards, > Huang, Ying >