Re: [PATCH v13 3/6] mm/vmstat: manage per-CPU stats from CPU context when NOHZ full

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On 6 Jan 2023 15:16:23 -0300 Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@xxxxxxxxxx>
> On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 11:01:54PM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > On 6 Jan 2023 09:51:00 -0300 Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 08:12:44AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Regression wrt V12 if timer is added on the CPU that is not doing HK_TYPE_TIMER?
> > > 
> > > Before this change, the timer was managed (and queued on an isolated
> > > CPU) by vmstat_shepherd. Now it is managed (and queued) by the local
> > > CPU, so there is no regression.
> > 
> > Given vm stats folded when returning to userspace, queuing the delayed work
> > barely makes sense in the first place. If it can be canceled, queuing it burns
> > cycles with nothing earned. Otherwise vm stats got folded already.
> 
> Agree, but you can't know whether return to userspace will occur 
> before the timer is fired.

No way to predict a random timer expiration, no?
> 
> So queueing the timer is to _ensure_ that eventually vmstats will be 
> synced (which maintains the current timing behaviour wrt vmstat syncs).

After this change,

> > > > > @@ -1988,13 +2022,19 @@ void quiet_vmstat(void)
> > > > >  	if (!is_vmstat_dirty())
> > > > >  		return;
> > > > >  

it is only ensured eventually by this check instead.

> > > > > +	refresh_cpu_vm_stats(false);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_FLUSH_WORK_ON_RESUME_USER))
> > > > > +		return;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	if (!user)
> > > > > +		return;


> Also don't think the queueing cost is significant: it only happens
> for the first vmstat dirty item.

Cost is considered only if it is needed.
> 
> > Nor does shepherd even without delay. And the right thing is only make shepherd
> > leave isolated CPUs intact.




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