Artem, On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 05:48:21PM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-03 at 21:55 +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote: > > 13 1125 /c/linux/fs/ubifs/file.c <<do_truncation>> <===== deadlockable > > Sorry, but could you please explain once again how the deadlock may > happen? Sorry I confused ubifs do_truncation() with the truncate_inode_pages() that may be called from iput(). The once suspected deadlock scheme is when the flusher thread calls the final iput: flusher thread iput_final <some ubifs function> ubifs_budget_space shrink_liability writeback_inodes_sb writeback_inodes_sb_nr bdi_queue_work wait_for_completion => end up waiting for the flusher itself However I cannot find any ubifs functions to form the above loop, so ubifs should be safe for now. > > It seems they are all safe except for ubifs. ubifs may actually > > deadlock from the above do_truncation() caller. However it should be > > fixable because the ubifs call for writeback_inodes_sb_nr() sounds > > very brute force writeback and wait and there may well be better way > > out. > > I do not think this "fixable" - this is part of UBIFS design to force > write-back when we are not sure we have enough space. > > The problem is that we do not know how much space the dirty data in RAM > will take on the flash media (after it is actually written-back) - e.g., > because we compress all the data (UBIFS performs on-the-flight > compression). So we do pessimistic assumptions and allow dirtying more > and more data as long as we know for sure that there is enough flash > space on the media for the worst-case scenario (data are not > compressible). This is what the UBIFS budgeting subsystem does. > > Once the budgeting sub-system sees that we are not going to have enough > flash space for the worst-case scenario, it starts forcing write-back to > push some dirty data out to the flash media and update the budgeting > numbers, and get more realistic picture. > > So basically, before you can change _anything_ on UBIFS file-system, you > need to budget for the space. Even when you truncate - because > truncation is also about allocating more space for writing the updated > inode and update the FS index. (Remember, all writes are out-of-place in > UBIFS because we work with raw flash, not a block device). Thanks for the detailed explanations! Judging from the git log, ubifs starts with flushing NR_TO_WRITE=16 pages at one time commit 2acf80675800d ("UBIFS: simplify make_free_space") and is later changed to flushing *the whole* superblock by a writeback change ("writeback: get rid of generic_sync_sb_inodes() export"). This could greatly increase the wait time. I'd suggest to limit the write chunk size to about 125ms as the below change: --- linux.orig/fs/ubifs/budget.c 2012-03-08 23:16:01.661194026 -0800 +++ linux/fs/ubifs/budget.c 2012-03-08 23:16:02.477194003 -0800 @@ -63,7 +63,9 @@ static void shrink_liability(struct ubifs_info *c, int nr_to_write) { down_read(&c->vfs_sb->s_umount); - writeback_inodes_sb(c->vfs_sb, WB_REASON_FS_FREE_SPACE); + writeback_inodes_sb_nr(c->vfs_sb, + c->bdi.avg_write_bandwidth / 8 + nr_to_write, + WB_REASON_FS_FREE_SPACE); up_read(&c->vfs_sb->s_umount); } Here nr_to_write=16 merely serves as some minimal safeguard in case bdi.avg_write_bandwidth drops to 0. Perhaps we can eliminate the parameter and use the constant number directly. Thanks, Fengguang -- To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in the body to majordomo@xxxxxxxxx. For more info on Linux MM, see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ . Fight unfair telecom internet charges in Canada: sign http://stopthemeter.ca/ Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@xxxxxxxxx"> email@xxxxxxxxx </a>