Hello, I'm forwarding below mail to you, as I assume you would have some interest in DAMON, because you reviewed DAMON patches, modified DAMON source files, had discussion about DAMON with me, or shown explicit interest to me, to my understanding. Please feel free to forward this to any other people you know having interests in DAMON. Sorry if I mistakenly put your name here. The mail is also available at https://lore.kernel.org/damon/20220810225102.124459-1-sj@xxxxxxxxxx/ Thanks, SJ ----------------------- Forwarding mail --------------------------------------- Subject: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series To: damon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-damon@xxxxxxxxxx, linux-damon-trial@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: linux-mm@xxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hello, In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly meeting series for DAMON community. Important links and dates ------------------------- Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing First instance: 2022-08-15 18:00 PDT Second instance: 2022-08-30 09:00 PDT Why --- A number of people have shown interest in DAMON, participated in the development, and formed a community. I therefore tried to react to queries, comments, and share current works and progresses via mails, conferences, and some virtual meetings. Nevertheless, that was in somewhat reactive and occasional manner. It was sometimes not open to all, and might be too formal. I hence think we could make it better. That is, helping each member of the community to better understand who have what kind of interest in DAMON and what they are doing at the moment, align their goals, and efficiently collaborate. Who --- I hope to meet with anyone having interest in DAMON including but not limited to kernel developers, user space developers, system administrators, researchers, students, and whoever. Only one requirement is to have any kind of interest in the development and/or usages of DAMON. How --- I'd prefer the meeting to be informal for easy communictions. Just grab a beer, a coffee, a tea, or whatever you have, join in the meeting, and chat anything except confidentials (of course!). No proof of concept or concrete plan will be needed. Rather than that, dumb questions and crazy ideas are more welcome. For meeting agenda proposal, let's use a public Google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing The agendas proposed previous to the meeting would have higher priority, but proposing any agenda during the meeting is also welcome. Expected topics of the meetings include: - Introduction of each other (who they are, what kind of interest/expectation they have for DAMON), - Sharing each person or company's current progress and bottlenecks on their DAMON development/application works, - Discussions on possible collaborations on DAMON-related works (both on kernel space and user space), - Discussions on direction and prioritization of DAMON's future, - Just show each other's face and saying hi, and - Anything. So the meetings might cover quite wide ranges of topics. We could have separate communications for more focused topics with people who have interest in the specific topic on demand. At least, I will try to share my progress and near future plans in every meeting. Where ----- Let's use Google Meet: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu. I'm using Google Meet only because I don't have experience in other tools. If you know better tools or have concerns about Google Meet, please feel free to let me know. If there is any change to the platform or the link, I will share the update to damon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. When ---- The meeting will be held every two weeks for 30 minutes. To cover as many timezones as possible, the meeting will be held once at Monday evening (18:00) PDT, and then at Tuesday morning (09:00) PDT two weeks after the previous one, and repeat. The two time slots will hopefully convince Asia/Pacific/America-near and America/Europe/Africa/-near people, respectively. Of course, the meetings could be canceled sometimes. The first instance will be held at 2022-08-15 (Mon) 18:00 PDT. ,_ . ._. _. . ,_ , _-\','|~\~ ~/ ;-'_ _-' ,;_;_, ~~- , _-\', /~~-\_/-'~'--' \~~| ', ,' / / ~|-_\_/~/~ ~~--~~~~'--_ /~~-\_/-'~'--' \ / ,/'-/~ '\ ,' _ , '|,'|~ ._/-, /~ / , ~/-'~\_, '-,| '|. ' ~ ,\ /'~ / /_ /~ ~/-'~\_, ' .-~ '| '',\~|\ _\~ EU ,_ , /| .-~ '| '\ AMER /'~ |_/~\\,-,~ \ " ASIA ,_,/ | '\ AMER | / ._-~'\_ _~| \ ) / | \ __-\ '/ ~ |\ \_ / ~ \ __ ., '\ |, ~-_ - | \\_' ~| /\ \~ , ., '\ |, ~-_' _; '\ AFRICA '-, \,' /\/ | ~-_ '\_,~'\_ \_ _, /' ' |, /|' ' / \_ ~ | / \ ~'; -,_. | ~\ | | , '-_, ,; ~ ~\ \, / \ / /| ,-, , -, | ,/ | |' |/ ,- ~ \ '. ,| ,/ \ ,/ \ | / | ~ -~~-, / _ | ,-' ~ / / ,' ~ ',| ~ │ │ │ │ └──────────────────────────────────┘ └───────────────────────────────────────┘ Tuesday morning PDT Monday evening PDT FAQs ---- 1. Will this replace the email based communications? Obviously not. This is only for complementing the email based communication. The email based communication, especially the patches review process, will of course continue. We might provide some comments on each other's patches during the meeting, but it should also be sent via email and archived. 2. Can I miss some important information if I don't join the meetings? Probably no. I will provide meeting summaries to DAMON mailing list (damon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) if there were important discussions, so you are not required to join in the meeting series always. Nevertheless, as it could be delayed or missed, I'd recommend to join in the meetings if you could. 3. Will the meetings be recorded and shared? No, unless explicitly required and everyone agreed. 4. Can I discuss about some confidential things? No. This meeting series is open for everyone, so please discuss only non-confidential things. If you have to or unsure, please have a separate meeting with appropriate people. 5. Who will organize and lead the meeting series? I would organize and lead it by default at the beginning, but would be also ok to be driven by anyone in the community. 6. Should I say something if I join in? No. You're welcome to just listen if you don't have anything to say. I'd personally recommend people to provide a brief introduction of themselves, but if you feel uncomfortable about it, of course you can skip. Simply showing up your face or name on the screen and saying hi to others would also be great. 7. What's the benefit for me to join in the meeting series? This would be a good chance to let the people of the community know your problems, requirements, ongoing works and get helps or avoid unnecessary conflicts. Maybe you could make a friend. It will benefit not only you, but eventually help the community back. Making community healthy will again help you back. So I'd recommend you to join the meetings if you could, even if you don't have something special to say. --- I hope this to help the community to better understand each other, make good/efficient alignments of each goals on DAMON, and ultimately get some fun and deliver benefits to the community and the world. Please leave any comments or questions if you have. Thanks, SJ
