Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: Make non-preallocated allocation low priority

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On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 12:09 PM Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 09:47:32AM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 6, 2022 at 8:59 AM Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > GFP_ATOMIC doesn't cooperate well with memcg pressure so far, especially
> > > if we allocate too much GFP_ATOMIC memory. For example, when we set the
> > > memcg limit to limit a non-preallocated bpf memory, the GFP_ATOMIC can
> > > easily break the memcg limit by force charge. So it is very dangerous to
> > > use GFP_ATOMIC in non-preallocated case. One way to make it safe is to
> > > remove __GFP_HIGH from GFP_ATOMIC, IOW, use (__GFP_ATOMIC |
> > > __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM) instead, then it will be limited if we allocate
> > > too much memory.
> > >
> > > We introduced BPF_F_NO_PREALLOC is because full map pre-allocation is
> > > too memory expensive for some cases. That means removing __GFP_HIGH
> > > doesn't break the rule of BPF_F_NO_PREALLOC, but has the same goal with
> > > it-avoiding issues caused by too much memory. So let's remove it.
> > >
> > > The force charge of GFP_ATOMIC was introduced in
> > > commit 869712fd3de5 ("mm: memcontrol: fix network errors from failing
> > > __GFP_ATOMIC charges") by checking __GFP_ATOMIC, then got improved in
> > > commit 1461e8c2b6af ("memcg: unify force charging conditions") by
> > > checking __GFP_HIGH (that is no problem because both __GFP_HIGH and
> > > __GFP_ATOMIC are set in GFP_AOMIC). So, if we want to fix it in memcg,
> > > we have to carefully verify all the callsites. Now that we can fix it in
> > > BPF, we'd better not modify the memcg code.
> > >
> > > This fix can also apply to other run-time allocations, for example, the
> > > allocation in lpm trie, local storage and devmap. So let fix it
> > > consistently over the bpf code
> > >
> > > __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM doesn't cooperate well with memcg pressure neither
> > > currently. But the memcg code can be improved to make
> > > __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM work well under memcg pressure if desired.
> >
> > Could you elaborate ?
> >
> > > It also fixes a typo in the comment.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Reviewed-by: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Roman, do you agree with this change ?
>
> Yes, removing __GFP_HIGH makes sense to me. I can imagine we might want
> it for *some* bpf allocations, but applying it unconditionally looks wrong.

Yeah. It's a difficult trade-off to make without having the data
to decide whether removing __GFP_HIGH can cause issues or not,
but do you agree that __GFP_HIGH doesn't cooperate well with memcg ?
If so it's a bug on memcg side, right? but we should probably
apply this band-aid on bpf side to fix the bleeding.
Later we can add a knob to allow __GFP_HIGH usage on demand from
bpf prog.




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