> On Oct 26, 2021, at 11:44 AM, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 10/26/21 10:44 AM, Nadav Amit wrote:
>>> "If software on one logical processor writes to a page while software on
>>> another logical processor concurrently clears the R/W flag in the
>>> paging-structure entry that maps the page, execution on some processors may
>>> result in the entry’s dirty flag being set (due to the write on the first
>>> logical processor) and the entry’s R/W flag being clear (due to the update
>>> to the entry on the second logical processor). This will never occur on a
>>> processor that supports control-flow enforcement technology (CET)”
>>>
>>> So I guess that this optimization can only be enabled when CET is enabled.
>>>
>>> :(
>> I still wonder whether the SDM comment applies to present bit vs dirty
>> bit atomicity as well.
>
> I think it's implicit. From "4.8 ACCESSED AND DIRTY FLAGS":
>
> "Whenever there is a write to a linear address, the processor
> sets the dirty flag (if it is not already set) in the paging-
> structure entry"
>
> There can't be a "write to a linear address" without a Present=1 PTE.
> If it were a Dirty=1,Present=1 PTE, there's no race because there might
> not be a write to the PTE at all.
>
> There's also this from the "4.10.4.3 Optional Invalidation" section:
>
> "no TLB entry or paging-structure cache entry is created with
> information from a paging-structure entry in which the P flag
> is 0."
>
> That means that we don't have to worry about the TLB doing something
> bonkers like caching a Dirty=1 bit from a Present=0 PTE.
>
> Is that what you were worried about?
Thanks Dave, but no - that is not my concern.
To make it very clear - consider the following scenario, in which
a volatile pointer p is mapped using a certain PTE, which is RW
(i.e., *p is writable):
CPU0 CPU1
---- ----
x = *p
[ PTE cached in TLB;
PTE is not dirty ]
clear_pte(PTE)
*p = x
[ needs to set dirty ]
Note that there is no TLB flush in this scenario. The question
is whether the write access to *p would succeed, setting the
dirty bit on the clear, non-present entry.
I was under the impression that the hardware AD-assist would
recheck the PTE atomically as it sets the dirty bit. But, as I
said, I am not sure anymore whether this is defined architecturally
(or at least would work in practice on all CPUs modulo the
Knights Landing thingy).
